The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Infected by Nemesis. What do know about how and when. What we don't know.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I figure Lara had tapped poor, vague Justine to help her with sorting the collection (the odds of Justine being able to focus enough to recall anything useful, or report to others, would have seemed minimal). But something in there spoke to her... offered her the chance to help Thomas, the chance to be with Thomas again.
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Lara made her her private secretary after Blood Rites. Justine was also able to share plenty.. Odd that her mental illness was suddenly cured, don't you think?
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 24, 2023, 02:13:34 PM ---I'm pretty certain that's a mortal thing, a human thing; not limited to Starborn. Human choices, free will, love... This is potent, potent stuff in the Dresdenverse. It dwarfs the power of the White Council, dwarfs even Mab's power.
A human choice, freely made, can split the entire universe, creating a whole new branch of reality.
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I mean things not meant to change, like I'm pretty sure most mortals call him Uri and Uriel isn't going to gather clouds and crack thunder on them. But Harry Dresden doing it was a threat to who he was.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 24, 2023, 06:02:44 PM --- Lara made her her private secretary after Blood Rites. Justine was also able to share plenty.. Odd that her mental illness was suddenly cured, don't you think?
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Yes indeed; I'm pretty sure mentally- and emotionally-fragile Justine, longing for Thomas, was a plum ripe for Nemesis' picking.
And there she was, sorting through Papa Raith's collection of Outsider documents & items... Let's throw a match on that gasoline, eh? And a lit road-flare. And some extra kerosine. A few handfuls of powdered trinitrotoluene. Sprinkle some nitroglycerine. We wanna make sure our marshmallow gets toasted!
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 24, 2023, 10:23:21 PM ---Yes indeed; I'm pretty sure mentally- and emotionally-fragile Justine, longing for Thomas, was a plum ripe for Nemesis' picking.
And there she was, sorting through Papa Raith's collection of Outsider documents & items... Let's throw a match on that gasoline, eh? And a lit road-flare. And some extra kerosine. A few handfuls of powdered trinitrotoluene. Sprinkle some nitroglycerine. We wanna make sure our marshmallow gets toasted!
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No need, HWWB is there to do it for her... It may be far fetched, but consider she and Thomas were living together, her Nemfected self arranged to get pregnant and Thomas is influenced to become an assassin and nobody noticed that anything was off about her? Me thinks you underestimate Nemesis.. ::)
Yuillegan:
Ever since Justine's reveal, I have always assumed she got infected by Nemesis early on working for Lara. How that happened is a mystery, but I would guess it was while Cowl still had agents in the White Court (assuming he doesn't have them any more..)
Lara seems more like Drakul, in that now she understands the Game, she is playing at a higher level. She isn't so worried about small stuff like merely ruling the White Court. So I can't see her allying with Outsiders or whatever. Not for the moment. But she does want to gain a lot more power, and it seems she has a strategy (given how apparently she is going for power "in a big way" according to Thomas).
Nemesis we still know frighteningly little about.
We know:
- It can possess/infect/corrupt other beings both immortal and mortal (although there might be limits on more powerful beings).
- There is a limit to how many it can "infect" although we don't know what that limit is
- It can't be detected except through the Sight (presumably only mortals and certain immortals can see it), but this is dangerous
- It's better to try and guess who it has infected as it's more "art than a skill" according to the Gatekeeper
- It's very powerful and has a lot of reach
- It is less of a planner and more an "agent of chaos" like the Joker in the Dark Knight, or Jack Sparrow (if you're feeling cheeky). It simply does "things" and sees what end it creates. It all furthers it's long term goal.
- Its long term goal is "Empty Night" "the unravelling of all things"
- Even the Gatekeeper at the focus of his power cannot always be sure
- Even Uriel might not always know given how power from the Outside works, according to WOJ
- If He Who Walks Before (Sharkface) is the harbinger and vanguard leader, and He Who Walks Behind is the assassin and ruling knight, then He Who Walks Beside (Nemesis) and is the infiltrator and sapper and agent of sabotage and espionage.
- We have no idea what a "Walker" is but that title keeps coming up, and suggests even among Outsiders the Walkers are special. The current theory is they are some sort of planeswalkers which gives them special powers in the multiverse. But we don't have any confirmation of this.
- Nemesis seems to have caused a LOT more destruction currently than his brothers/peers. It will be interesting to see if they are saving their strength or simply play far different roles (or are perhaps just a lot less effective).
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