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KurtinStGeorge:
I'm near the end of rereading; well, mostly re-listening to all of the Dresden Files case file books.  On my first read through and then listening to the audio book of Peace Talks, I just assumed that Cowl was around but keeping out of sight.  He makes a good suspect for summoning the cornerhounds and I think there was even a WoJ that came out a few years ago that Cowl is sometimes operating in the background but we just don't see him.  (Yes, I know there were threads on this subject back in the day, I don't think any of them caught what I'm about to mention.)

However, this last time I was struck by what Warden Chandler said to Harry just after Harry left the Raith chateau:
Chandler’s smile didn’t falter. But it took on an aspect of granite, somehow. “No one’s that disingenuous, Dresden. The Winter Lady gets you quarters inside the svartalf embassy. Not long after, a known personal agent of Lara Raith and a frequent ally of your own gets inside, somehow, and attempts to assassinate Etri. Hours later, you visit the assassin’s significant other, then have a meeting with Ms. Raith.”

“Um,” I said. “Sure, I mean, when you put it like that, I see how that might look a little suspicious… ”

I swear, sometimes I just want to hit Harry upside his head.  He either doesn't know how to defend himself from false allegations or he misses an obvious clue.  In this case it may have been both.  By the way I'm not accusing Chandler of anything specific.  He just happened to be the warden who spoke directly to Harry.

Harry should have mentioned that Chandler's description of Harry's day left out his meeting with the two current KotC and one former KotC.  That by itself goes against the narrative that Harry was consorting with nefarious characters all day.  Perhaps even more glaring, Harry could have asked, "If you were following me around, why didn't you help me and Senior Council member McCoy when we were attacked by Outsiders today?  You must have seen that after I visited Justine, I didn't leave immediately.  I was checking for magical trace energy outside of her apartment when McCoy appeared.  We had a brief discussion before a herd of cornerhounds came after us.  It would have been nice if there had been some wardens around to help out."

I'm wondering if all of the wardens followed Harry around or if they did it in shifts.  Actually, it makes sense that Ramirez did the following, he's the one who had the magical ink on his hand that would allow him to follow Harry around.  He could have contacted the other wardens through magical means when he wanted all of them to confront Harry outside the Raith estate.  That makes Warden Ramirez's actions look very sloppy or makes them look very questionable. 

Plus, Ramirez was obviously more than physically injured by what Molly did to him.  There's more going on with Ramirez than what has been openly stated.


   

 


Mira:
  I agree, something is up with Ramirez, the obvious is he is infested with the Nemesis.. To which
the answer would be, that is too obvious, or can human wizards even be infested with Nemesis? Maybe not, but he has taken a lot of blows of late, both physical and emotional.  This makes him vulnerable to being corrupted, question is, by whom? 

One other thought I had reading your post having recently read "David Copperfield," when I was struck as to how dense and poor judge of people young David was, not unlike Harry.. Yeah, I know Harry was named after the magician, but he also has a lot in common with the original David Copperfield, both were orphaned, both suffered abuse, etc. 

--- Quote ---Harry should have mentioned that Chandler's description of Harry's day left out his meeting with the two current KotC and one former KotC.  That by itself goes against the narrative that Harry was consorting with nefarious characters all day.  Perhaps even more glaring, Harry could have asked, "If you were following me around, why didn't you help me and Senior Council member McCoy when we were attacked by Outsiders today?  You must have seen that after I visited Justine, I didn't leave immediately.  I was checking for magical trace energy outside of her apartment when McCoy appeared.  We had a brief discussion before a herd of cornerhounds came after us.  It would have been nice if there had been some wardens around to help out."

--- End quote ---

Not unlike David Copperfield, Harry was so taken aback that his friends could turn on him, he was unable to defend himself and too honorable to tell them it was Murphy and not Lara that he had sex with earlier in the day.  Nor at that point, in spite of his previous clashes with them can he conceive
that he was being set up by someone on the White Council.  Another scene from the series you might want to bring up is in Proven Guilty when Harry politically out maneuvers Langtree in front of the Senior Council to save Molly.. It is made clear that there that there will be consequences at some point down the line.. I think that is what we are seeing now.

EBRIEN:
I still think Chandler doesn't smell right.

Drakul just makes him fall into a portal to elsewhere/nowhere rather than kill him for food or a new recruit? Bad guy.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: EBRIEN on September 30, 2023, 09:37:31 PM ---I still think Chandler doesn't smell right.

Drakul just makes him fall into a portal to elsewhere/nowhere rather than kill him for food or a new recruit? Bad guy.

--- End quote ---

I've had the exact same thought.  It would be quite inconvenient from a story telling perspective to make Yoshino or Wild Bill the bad guy, seeing as they were both killed by Drakul, so that leaves Ramirez or Chandler.  I favored Chandler as the traitor until I realized that Ramirez was probably the only one of the wardens present who could track Harry all day.  The only one who could compile a report of what Harry had been up to.

I could be wrong.  We could be told later that Ramirez had some way of transferring the tracking spell so all of the wardens could take turns following Harry, then it could very well be Chandler.  I think Jim has hinted that Chandler will appear in Mirror Mirror.  If that happens then this question might get answered.

Even if Chandler does turn out to be the bad guy, that doesn't negate the fact the Ramirez has taken a bad turn.  By that, I don't mean he's necessarily turned to the dark side.  It could be Ramirez has been traumatized to the point where he's becoming a younger version of Morgan.  Becoming harder, less tolerant and more likely see a threat that needs to be removed rather than a friend who needs to be reasoned with.

Now that I think about this scenario, when Warden Morgan died the Merlin lost his right hand man.  It would make sense for Langtry to be looking for a replacement.  Someone like Ramirez might be a perfect candidate for the Merlin to recruit.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Now that I think about this scenario, when Warden Morgan died the Merlin lost his right hand man.  It would make sense for Langtry to be looking for a replacement.  Someone like Ramirez might be a perfect candidate for the Merlin to recruit.

--- End quote ---

  Which fits nicely with Ramirez being hurt both physically and emotionally in more ways than one by the Lady of Winter.. And who might Carlos blame for Molly's current status? Harry, so be open to anything Langtree said negative about him.. It also fits with what I said about the scene in Proven Guilty where Harry bested Langtree politically, thus seen as a threat to be removed at some point by Langtree. 

I would be surprised if Chandler turns out to be the bad guy.

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