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So, LaFortier was *NOT* the prior Warden of Demonreach!

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vincentric:
Probably an extrapolation for the time. Kemmler was supposedly Warden when he was finally stopped and some of the timelines list that as 1961.

g33k:

--- Quote from: spiritofair on September 25, 2023, 07:12:45 PM --- Wait a minute, where is it said that Kemmler was Warden until 1961? That's awful specific, and I don't remember seeing it anywhere.
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--- Quote from: vincentric on September 25, 2023, 07:17:11 PM --- Probably an extrapolation for the time. Kemmler was supposedly Warden when he was finally stopped and some of the timelines list that as 1961.
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Yes, 1961 as the date of Kemmler's death.  Not just "some of the timelines" but specifically the one adopted on Jim's official website (based on fan work... but collaborative & obsessively-cross-checked fan work!).  It may still be wrong (or get retcon'ed), but it's specific & clear:

--- Quote ---1961: Kemmler is killed (again). Justin Dumorne acquires Bob the Skull from the smoldering ruins of his lab.
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-- https://www.jim-butcher.com/timeline

I honestly hadn't even considered that Kemmler might have allowed some other wizard to "snipe" Demonreach out from under him... I had presumed Kemmler would have left the genus loci with explicit orders to insta-kill any wizard who stepped foot on the island.

And, thus, to have retained the Wardenship until he died.

Mira:

--- Quote ---    1961: Kemmler is killed (again). Justin Dumorne acquires Bob the Skull from the smoldering ruins of his lab.

-- https://www.jim-butcher.com/timeline

I honestly hadn't even considered that Kemmler might have allowed some other wizard to "snipe" Demonreach out from under him... I had presumed Kemmler would have left the genus loci with explicit orders to insta-kill any wizard who stepped foot on the island.

And, thus, to have retained the Wardenship until he died.
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Hint that it might be true, but I'm not positive on this point, in Cold Days did Alfred ask Harry to get Bob to translate all he needed to tell and instruct Harry or was it Harry's idea to steal Bob from Butters to help him understand what Alfred was showing and trying to tell him about.  If the former, how did Alfred know about Bob unless Kemmler had him on the island with him while he was Warden.

vincentric:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 26, 2023, 03:24:00 AM ---

Hint that it might be true, but I'm not positive on this point, in Cold Days did Alfred ask Harry to get Bob to translate all he needed to tell and instruct Harry or was it Harry's idea to steal Bob from Butters to help him understand what Alfred was showing and trying to tell him about.  If the former, how did Alfred know about Bob unless Kemmler had him on the island with him while he was Warden.

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Harry took Bob from Butters to ask him how to kill Maeve. He then carried him to the island to examine the wards on the cabin. Alfred noticed Bob through his intellectus and used him to translate. Bob was just a convenient spirit Harry had with him, there was no indication of a prior meeting.

Mira:

--- Quote from: vincentric on September 26, 2023, 04:09:57 AM ---Harry took Bob from Butters to ask him how to kill Maeve. He then carried him to the island to examine the wards on the cabin. Alfred noticed Bob through his intellectus and used him to translate. Bob was just a convenient spirit Harry had with him, there was no indication of a prior meeting.

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 Thanks, its been a while since I read Cold Days. 

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