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WOJ search for Uriel/Odin deal for Murphy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on January 02, 2024, 06:05:58 AM ---Murphy had to die (or maybe "die").
She was just a mortal, and Harry was moving further and further up the supernatural food-chain. She could do amazing stuff against Valkyries, Whampires, etc... But put against something like a Naagloshii, she'd be d-e-d dead.
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Which kind of goes back to my original point about Murphy, what was originally appealing about her in my opinion, was her mortality. The amazing stuff she was able to do stopped being believable, she became Bruce Lee on steroids, Annie Oakley with a high powered scope, all with a higher IQ than Einstein. So now that she is dead...
Can she be considered a higher functioning "zombie" now? Is that what an Einherjar is? Does she still have free will since she is now one of Odin's Einherjar? Supposedly she won't return until she has passed out of living memory, but what of her memory? Imagine Harry's pain if she is brought back and he knows her, but she has no clue of who he is or cares..
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 02, 2024, 02:38:56 PM --- Which kind of goes back to my original point about Murphy, what was originally appealing about her in my opinion, was her mortality. The amazing stuff she was able to do stopped being believable ...
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She was an extremely-advanced martial-arts practitioner; many of them are startlingly-competent.
I personally knew a "Murphy"-like person -- cute, small, blonde, senior aikidoka. Nice lady, and when she came at you seriously she was the scariest person I've ever met (this with years of karate behind me). I have literally seen another black-belt take a glance at her then turn and run away, on the mat!
When Murphy added the Sword at Chichén Itzá... yes, that turned her dial up to "11," and I liked it -- for her character, for the story -- that she decided to put the Sword back down again, afterwards. The post-Changes Murphy was back to being a mortal, not Supermurphy; but she was much more being stretched to her limits, and barely-keeping-up. Before that, with a couple of exceptions (vs the Nightmare & vs. Papa Raith), Murphy was mostly on top of even the supernatural situations.
From the high-fantasy action-adventure aspect of the Casefiles, Murphy was no longer a "viable" adventuring character to accompany Harry.
Mira:
--- Quote ---She was an extremely-advanced martial-arts practitioner; many of them are startlingly-competent.
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She had limits, Nic wiped the curb with her.. Then she removes her own casts, one minute she can barely walk, the next she manages to surprise and take down a Valkyrie?
--- Quote ---I personally knew a "Murphy"-like person -- cute, small, blonde, senior aikidoka. Nice lady, and when she came at you seriously she was the scariest person I've ever met (this with years of karate behind me). I have literally seen another black-belt take a glance at her then turn and run away, on the mat!
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Maybe when she was physically whole and in shape, but as of Peace Talks and Battle Ground Murphy wasn't. Even if she were in splints and doing physical therapy all along after Nic got done with her... She apparently wasn't because she had to cut her cast off, if you have ever worn a cast for a time or recovered in splints after orthopedic surgery, you know the limb doesn't instantly recover, even if you are doing physical therapy all along..
--- Quote ---When Murphy added the Sword at Chichén Itzá... yes, that turned her dial up to "11," and I liked it -- for her character, for the story -- that she decided to put the Sword back down again, afterwards. The post-Changes Murphy was back to being a mortal, not Supermurphy; but she was much more being stretched to her limits, and barely-keeping-up. Before that, with a couple of exceptions (vs the Nightmare & vs. Papa Raith), Murphy was mostly on top of even the supernatural situations.
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Which just wasn't realistic even for a fantasy.
--- Quote ---From the high-fantasy action-adventure aspect of the Casefiles, Murphy was no longer a "viable" adventuring character to accompany Harry.
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Which Murphy should never have been to begin with in my opinion. When we first meet her, smart, strong,a good shot and martial artist, she didn't need to become an action-adventure figure to be compelling. Michael doesn't need any super human abilities, he had a Holy Sword, but he does pretty good without that.
Actually when you think of it, Murphy's actions was really a form of suicide. With her injuries she wasn't up to really fighting any pitched physical battles, and actually could have made things worse had Harry been distracted trying to protect her. Yes, she caught a bullet from a paranoid cop and died, and did manage to take out a giant with a bazooka before she died, but in the later physical battles where even the likes of Odin and Mab barely made it, she wouldn't have survived. Yes, hard to stay behind at Mac's place to protect the people there, but Harry wasn't being over protective of her in doing that. Actually it was her ego once again that she knew better, so she failed to follow orders, that's what got her killed.
vincentric:
Well, in Battle Ground, Murphy is able to do the things she does because of the magical boost she's getting from Mab. Bob explains it to Harry and even holds up Murphy as an example of how it's working. If Murphy had survived Rudolph, I suspect she would have been left in charge to hold the impromptu fortress while Sanya, Butters and Harry went to ambush the Formor.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on January 03, 2024, 04:29:34 PM ---Well, in Battle Ground, Murphy is able to do the things she does because of the magical boost she's getting from Mab. Bob explains it to Harry and even holds up Murphy as an example of how it's working. If Murphy had survived Rudolph, I suspect she would have been left in charge to hold the impromptu fortress while Sanya, Butters and Harry went to ambush the Formor.
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That was before the boost.
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