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Mira:

--- Quote from: vincentric on September 27, 2023, 09:06:07 PM ---Thinking about it, the easiest way for Murphy (or Hendricks) to be used again will probably be in the "wrestling" book.

As part of the favor Harry owes Vadderung, he and Gard could be sent to the Norse Valhalla in the Never Never and encounter them there.

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Maybe, but only I think if something happens to Harry's mind and he is suffering from amnesia and doesn't know who she is. 

Here is what Gard says in Battle Ground pages 365-366
1] What an Einherjar is

--- Quote ---She waved a hand vaguely at her temple.  "It's a limited intellectus, of the honored dead, of their deeds.
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So now a limited intellectus, but still dead..  Harry suddenly has hope on the next page that if she is Einherjar he will see her again... But Gard replies


--- Quote ---I nodded.  Then after a while, I said, "If she is Einherjar now. . ."
Gard shook her head.  "Not until the memory of her has faded from the minds of those who knew her.  That is the limit not even the Allfather can cross."
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Harry replies that she wasn't very forgettable, and Gard agrees.. However a cosmic rule is a cosmic rule, these things cannot be broken without grave consequences. I take Gard at her word,in these matters she is the expert.

vincentric:
Murphy wouldn't be returning the world, Harry and Gard would be seeing her and Hendricks in Valhalla while seeking information.

magnuskn:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 28, 2023, 12:08:46 AM ---Harry replies that she wasn't very forgettable, and Gard agrees.. However a cosmic rule is a cosmic rule, these things cannot be broken without grave consequences. I take Gard at her word,in these matters she is the expert.
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As we all know, Harry will break all seven laws of magic by the end of the series. I'm pretty sure that he (and Murphy) will be able to circumvent this just made up "cosmic rule" (who made it a "cosmic rule", btw? Or did you just come up with that?) as well.

Conspiracy Theorist:
At one point it is stated that the Einenjharen have up to four millennia of experience. I find that hard to believe given Odin’s mythological time-line as this would suggest Odin has had Soulfire for 4,000 years, very much pre-Christian. It may suggest that the Einenjharen have returned from the far future when then have been forgotten.

I wonder therefore if Murphy is going to return but more than 2,000 years old. I hope Harry likes older women.

LaraBeck:

--- Quote from: magnuskn on September 28, 2023, 12:34:40 PM ---As we all know, Harry will break all seven laws of magic by the end of the series. I'm pretty sure that he (and Murphy) will be able to circumvent this just made up "cosmic rule" (who made it a "cosmic rule", btw? Or did you just come up with that?) as well.

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Gard says it in Battle Ground, but yeah, we still don't know who made the rule.

I think it's possible that they meet again because of something Harry does (which IMO is necessary even for that relationship) but I think it's more likely that JB makes it about Murphy doing most of the work.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 28, 2023, 12:36:58 PM ---At one point it is stated that the Einenjharen have up to four millennia of experience. I find that hard to believe given Odin’s mythological time-line as this would suggest Odin has had Soulfire for 4,000 years, very much pre-Christian. It may suggest that the Einenjharen have returned from the far future when then have been forgotten.

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I believe it's in this passage from Changes

--- Quote from: LaraBeck on September 26, 2023, 07:47:35 PM ---The leader of the guards eyed us both suspiciously for a moment, then said something quietly and all the rifles stopped pointing at me. Two guards returned to stand on either side of a doorway. Two more took up a station facing Gard and me, evidently cautious about getting more company through the same Way we'd just used. The rest returned to a couple of card tables and a few sleeping cots.

“Einherjar. Give them a little sip of renewed mortality, and four thousand years of discipline go right out the window”

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Now that's an interesting thing, I believe it was in WoJs that we're told one of the uses of soulfire is to bring to life the Einherjar, so, if it's pre-christian, then it doesn't go with another WoJ where he said Odin got the soulfire when the christian god took over or something like that. But I guess it could be questionable since those two tidbits of information are not in the books while the 4000 years thing is on them.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 28, 2023, 12:36:58 PM ---I wonder therefore if Murphy is going to return but more than 2,000 years old. I hope Harry likes older women.

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Fair question. I really hope the whole time travel thing doesn't become such a heavy feature of the story, though, but that's personal preference.

About the older women, lol, well, Murph is already aprox 3 years older, then there's Luccio too. Plus, if we ask other fans who believe there is attraction for Lash and Lara, well, those ladies are older too. LOL, actually a 2043 year old Murphy fits better with that group!  ::)

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