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Q&A Fantasyfestival 2023 in Esbjerg/Denmark

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Conspiracy Theorist:
The FBI in Chicago decide to hire their own supernatural consultant from Monoc, they can’t run to a Valkyrie but can a single Einenjharen Murphy. Murphy now has to work with Rick her ex-husband who married her younger sister. As an Einenjharen Murphy will have ceased aging. I always thought that was a loose end which needed tying up.

magnuskn:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 18, 2023, 12:32:16 PM ---Yes, as Murphy aged she became more unrealistic, so she either had to retire or die.. So Jim killed her off, my question is, if he brings her back as a resurrected supernatural something or other, what is he going to do with her?  For me at any rate and I don't think I am alone in this, the character suffered once she was fired from the police force.  Oh the shippers loved all the shipping between her and Harry, but she never quite fit in any of the roles he tried to put her in, including him making her into a combination of Wonder Woman and Athena Goddess of Wisdom..  I don't think it will work now, Murphy was best when she was a smart, professional no nonsense cop.  She hasn't been for a long time, let Harry mourn for her and let her rest in peace like Susan,Shiro, Morgan, and others, it is part of life.
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Again, I politely disagree. I thought she was a very good character the last books. And that she isn't going to "rest in peace" was pretty much already established by getting raised as an Einherjar. My personal prediction is still that she is coming back as a Valkyrie, which would subvert the whole "until she has passed out of living memory" rule sufficiently, since that rule if for Einherjar. That already gives her a job, some conflict with Harry, since she is under command of Odin and angst as well for ages.... literally, since now she's immortal and he isn't. Not to mention the whole "she's a catholic Valkyrie" thing. Although Dani Moonstar did pretty well with not being true Asgardian over in the Marvel universe.  ;D

Conspiracy Theorist:
They don’t make winged horses that small, unless Odin is a Brony. Would its cutie mark be an automatic pistol? The presumption is that she was taken to be an Einenjharen.

Murphy was a knight of the sword, (her post changes outings are not therefore out of character, she merely reached her full potential was she always on this career track given the association of Uriel and Vadderung? The Valkyries are often described as the daughters of royalty - Murphy is the descendant of a king something Harry has researched )(about the only thing), so she may qualify

Mira:

--- Quote from: magnuskn on September 18, 2023, 02:38:44 PM ---Again, I politely disagree. I thought she was a very good character the last books. And that she isn't going to "rest in peace" was pretty much already established by getting raised as an Einherjar. My personal prediction is still that she is coming back as a Valkyrie, which would subvert the whole "until she has passed out of living memory" rule sufficiently, since that rule if for Einherjar. That already gives her a job, some conflict with Harry, since she is under command of Odin and angst as well for ages.... literally, since now she's immortal and he isn't. Not to mention the whole "she's a catholic Valkyrie" thing. Although Dani Moonstar did pretty well with not being true Asgardian over in the Marvel universe.  ;D

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I guess we have to agree to disagree on this.  I remember the days when her fans argued that what made Murphy a great character was she was a ordinary vanilla human and was good balance to Harry's magical talent and growing power.  In my opinion the books were better when she was no longer in them, but that's me.


--- Quote ---Murphy was a knight of the sword, (her post changes outings are not therefore out of character, she merely reached her full potential was she always on this career track given the association of Uriel and Vadderung? The Valkyries are often described as the daughters of royalty - Murphy is the descendant of a king something Harry has researched )(about the only thing), so she may qualify

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Just when and where did Harry research that?  Murphy was only a Holy Knight for one night, Susan was also even though she was half vamp at the time.  I guess you could say since all the Red Court vamps descended from the Red King, that she was a royal descendant.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 18, 2023, 04:28:53 PM --- ... Murphy is the descendant of a king something Harry has researched )(about the only thing) ...
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Harry has a working theory that all KotC's are descended from royalty.

He has about 3 data points (Michael, Shiro, Sanya... any others??!?) and his own "wizards intuition" in support of this theory.

But I'm profoundly dubious that the Divine is following the same "rules" that Harry's intuition understands.

In the final analysis, though:  I don't think it matters.
Odds are, most people (and likely, everybody) is descended from royalty.

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