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Did Butters break the Laws of Magic?

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g33k:

--- Quote from: forumghost on September 15, 2023, 01:51:25 PM ---I mean bearing in mind Sanya's occupation immediately before becoming a knight I kinda doubt this matters...
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Immediately before becoming a Knight (of the Cross), Sanya was supernaturally-unemployed; at loose ends.

But as for his "credentials:"  he had just rejected his Coin, one he had entirely-accepted in becoming a Knight o.t.B.D.  That's pretty dang impressive, right there.

Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on September 18, 2023, 03:09:23 AM ---Immediately before becoming a Knight (of the Cross), Sanya was supernaturally-unemployed; at loose ends.

But as for his "credentials:"  he had just rejected his Coin, one he had entirely-accepted in becoming a Knight o.t.B.D.  That's pretty dang impressive, right there.

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Yeah, if I recall correctly it was because he rejected his Coin that he was offered the job.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 15, 2023, 08:13:33 AM ---Bob created the mind fog, not Butters ...
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I'm pretty sure the Council cares about both:  who created and who uses.
Butters was using the magic.  If he used it to invade Mortal minds, he was likely in violation.  Just as (for example) someone who uses a Hexenwulf-belt to kill has killed with magic.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 15, 2023, 08:13:33 AM --- ... Bob is not subject to the jurisdiction of the White Council ...
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<heh>
I am tolerably certain that the White Council feels they do indeed have jurisdiction over Bob ...

Mira:

--- Quote ---I am tolerably certain that the White Council feels they do indeed have jurisdiction over Bob ...
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  Yup, Luccio mentioned to Harry that the Wardens were looking for the skull when they killed Kemmler.  Object being to destroy the skull and the spirit with in.  They didn't know that Warden Justin who was part of the raid had already taken and hidden the skull from their detection.  Of course this was Evil Bob from Kemmler's time, his personality changed when Harry started calling him Bob and asked him to forget or block who he had been when Kemmler and Justin were his master.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: seanham on September 15, 2023, 03:02:36 AM ---I am rereading Summer Knight and came to the part where the Mind Fog was released into the supermarket and Harry calls the Fog illegal. Now that reminded me of Skin Game where Butters had the globes of Mind Fog. Butters was using them against Binder's goons but I'd bet this wasn't the first time he used them. If so could Butters be in violation of the Laws of Magic?

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The Laws?  No.  Other Council rules?  Maybe.

Remember what Harry observed when we first saw a mind fog: it was an unlicensed mind fog.  Which means that the use of mind fogs is permitted sometimes.  There are other Council rules besides the fundamental Laws, they just aren't nearly as important or necessarily all have the death penalty.

Butters would likely get into more trouble for having Bob than for the mind fog.

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