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Book of Kremmler
Conspiracy Theorist:
I don’t think that’s how the banner works at least Harry’s, people join of their free will, it advertises what Harry is and what he is doing but that the extent of it, it doesn’t make the cowardly join (Rudolph) or those who have their own priorities (Bradley).
Marcones on the other hand…….
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 17, 2023, 05:15:34 AM ---I don’t think that’s how the banner works at least Harry’s, people join of their free will, it advertises what Harry is and what he is doing but that the extent of it, it doesn’t make the cowardly join (Rudolph) or those who have their own priorities (Bradley).
Marcones on the other hand…….
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No, the fact that a banner had to be invoked at all says that the people who followed it didn't make the choice of their own free will. If they were afraid to fight, and then the banner, then suddenly they were ready to die? Does that sound like free will to you?
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 17, 2023, 03:03:37 PM ---No, the fact that a banner had to be invoked at all says that the people who followed it didn't make the choice of their own free will. If they were afraid to fight, and then the banner, then suddenly they were ready to die? Does that sound like free will to you?
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Actually, it proves that the banner did not impinge on free will at all. Harry's Banner gathered 1187 followers. Even with all the fighting and chaos, do you think that's all the people that were present in that part of Chicago? If his Banner had compelled people to fight, there would have been children among his ranks and he wouldn't have had to give any pep talks. People were inspired to fight but they weren't compelled .
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 17, 2023, 03:03:37 PM ---No, the fact that a banner had to be invoked at all says that the people who followed it didn't make the choice of their own free will. If they were afraid to fight, and then the banner, then suddenly they were ready to die? Does that sound like free will to you?
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Harry's banner gave them hope, I think.
And Harry led them to the wielder of Esperacchius.
Remember, Ethniu was trying to create Fear.
We don't know the mechanisms... maybe the banner just gave some measure of respite from Ethniu's fear.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 10, 2023, 11:08:32 AM ---He understood the principles and found it simple, he therefore doesn’t need perfect recall.
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Harry said that reanimating Sue was simple; I don't recall he spoke to the Darkhallow being simple (or not).
It was one of the Kemmlerites (likely Cowl, don't recall for sure) who said the Darkhallow was "simple," I think...
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