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g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 14, 2023, 05:46:27 PM ---Yeah, that last one usually backfires on him.. ::) 
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mmmm.... kindasortamaybe?
I mean... it very-often causes the BadGuys(tm) to make stupid mistakes.
(that's why CT, above, mistook it for neuromancy)

Conspiracy Theorist:
His battle with Eb is what I had in mind, he was up against a more powerful and experienced opponent, he defeated him by using neuromancy to provoke a ‘lethal’ attack on his decoy whilst he got to do what he intended to do.

Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on September 15, 2023, 04:54:15 AM ---mmmm.... kindasortamaybe?
I mean... it very-often causes the BadGuys(tm) to make stupid mistakes.
(that's why CT, above, mistook it for neuromancy)

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  That's true, it is also called taunting, which really isn't neuromancy, because the bad guy wasn't forced by mind control to make those stupid mistakes, they just have a short temper, and have no control when they lose it.  It backfires when Harry manages to really piss off a bad guy who keeps in control while pissed off and Harry gets his butt kicked.

--- Quote ---His battle with Eb is what I had in mind, he was up against a more powerful and experienced opponent, he defeated him by using neuromancy to provoke a ‘lethal’ attack on his decoy whilst he got to do what he intended to do.
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No, Harry did not tinker with Eb's mind in any way.  Harry knew before hand that Eb was way stronger than himself, he knew that Eb was very capable of squashing him like a bug in any fight.  So with Molly's help he made a copy of himself to do the fighting and get killed, while he tried to get away with Thomas.  Harry didn't tinker with Eb's mind in any way, it was Eb's own prejudices against vampires and the fact that his own daughter had a child by Lord Raith that blinded him to the point where he would have killed his own beloved grandson over it.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Neuromancy means to do it without mind control, no breach of the laws involved. Harry has never used magic in the examples I have given and yet was able to make a profound change in the attitude of a magical being, often one protected from the type of overt magical manipulation. Sometimes the best magic is not to use magic, in the same way Harry defeated Puck, it was either luck (and this is Harry we are talking about) or sleight of hand taught him by Malcom, or using the Roman candles in SG. Harry can think outside the ‘magic’ box.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 15, 2023, 04:51:45 PM ---Neuromancy means to do it without mind control, no breach of the laws involved. Harry has never used magic in the examples I have given and yet was able to make a profound change in the attitude of a magical being, often one protected from the type of overt magical manipulation. Sometimes the best magic is not to use magic, in the same way Harry defeated Puck, it was either luck (and this is Harry we are talking about) or sleight of hand taught him by Malcom, or using the Roman candles in SG. Harry can think outside the ‘magic’ box.

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It is a title of a science fiction novel and has no real meaning at all.

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