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Winter Law
vincentric:
I don't think this is a case of Mab wanting him checked so much as wanting him educated.
This occurred during CD. It was Harry's first job as Winter Knight and it was about Maeve and her Nemfection.
So, Mab may have been paying closer attention than normal to Harry. He didn't even violate Winter Law, just stated his intention to do so and got a not-so-subtle reminder of his oaths and employment status. She may have even wanted it to occur in this manner so she could rebuke him without it being a public thing before the court. That way she could keep his discipline light.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I don't think this is a case of Mab wanting him checked so much as wanting him educated.
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She educated him alright, when he spoke out against Winter, he found his back broken again. Or at least he thought that it was, Mab proved her point as to who was in charge.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2023, 12:15:55 PM --- She educated him alright, when he spoke out against Winter, he found his back broken again. Or at least he thought that it was, Mab proved her point as to who was in charge.
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Yeah, I think it was all Mab; and essentially, an illusion.
She nailed him right in his expectations, played on his prior despair at being helpless, hopeless.
He didn't try to fight it.
It echoed the time when Harry unmasked "Shiela," and Lasciel's Shadow created the illusion of fire: Harry was out the window and about to throw himself over, not trying to fight the unexpected potency of the illusion. Later, Harry realized he was in charge of his own head, and could *always* bring the illusions under control.
I don't know if he has realized that about Mab's ability to mess with his sensations, yet (he can control those, too). Note -- she is carefully not messing with his mind (as per his prior threat to become a "mediocre knight" if she did): she messes with the sensations, and he freely chooses to react as she wants.
Very Mab.
Harry will realize... eventually.
He'll be intensely annoyed... but at least 50% of it will be annoyance at himself.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Harry now has a lawyer, a good one in Max Valorious which evens the playing field with Mab considerably now that he has realised he can use Winter Law to manipulate Mab.
You see Winter Law makes Harry subject to manipulation by Mab BUT it also makes Mab subject to manipulation by Harry, and Mab can’t cheat or be seen to be cheating, but Harry is a wizard.
Worse Molly is learning from Harry, in the Good People Molly also finds a loophole and mercilessly exploits it to Mabs chagrin and bemusement. She forgot Molly was also a Wizard.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 10, 2023, 08:00:36 AM ---Harry now has a lawyer, a good one in Max Valorious which evens the playing field with Mab considerably now that he has realised he can use Winter Law to manipulate Mab ...
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Max is a bit of an enigma; we'll have to see if he has an ongoing role (I hope he does!).
(by the bye: is it just another PJBRH (Patented Jim Butcher Red Herring), or is it something meaningful that we hear Max's wife, but never see her??!? Last time we heard a querulous old woman speaking from offstage, IIRC, it was Mab's voice(!?)... and it would be just like Mab to put in play a counterweight (a balance) to Talvi Inverno... (on the third hand, balancing Winter's moves within the mortal realm is Summer's job, so maybe "Heloise" is Titania? Or (Winter-trained!) Sarissa?))
I'm unclear how Max got as clued-in as he is. He says he's trying to avoid entanglements with the Spookyside, but seems to know incredibly-much for a brilliant legalist who's actively avoiding it!
Still, he'd need some expert tutelage in order to be able to finesse the ins and outs of Winter Law.
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