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cander891:
In Peace Talks Lara’s second favor is to have Harry help him with getting Thomas out. But in essence doing so violates Winter Law by violating the accords. So does this mean the favor outweighs the law or does it mean that Harry can do it as long as he does it without being caught in violation??

I only ask this question because in Cold Days it’s established that even verbalizing that he is going to violate Winter Law damn near capacitates him (with Lakuna).

I feel like there is a bit of contradiction here. But maybe I am misunderstanding the difference between Winter Law and the Accords.

Elequosoraptor:
They aren't the same. The Accords govern interaction between supernatural nations (with a specific meaning of the word 'nation' that includes entities and organizations like Marcone's empire and Drakul). Winter Law governs, Winter. Not even Faerie as a whole, just Winter. It's internal only. The confusion arises because Mab is the one organizing and enforcing the Accords, which means that creatures of Winter need to adhere to them especially because Mab has more ability to investigate and enforce the Accords with them than with anyone else.

Nooneofconsequence:
I'm not sure Mab would appreciate just anyone violating the accords without getting caught, but for her Knight?  While she would absolutely punish him for getting caught,  I think it's fair to say she considers it a training exercise in ingenuity and cunning, so long as he doesn't get caught. 

Tinfoil hat:
Winter has a whole are rules lawyers. They respect intelligence, and ingenuity. Mab doesn't allow anyone to break winter law. But its only breaking the law if get caught as every criminal has said. And getting caught is  the worst thing her knight can do. If reflects badly on the knight and on Her. Being caught says that the Knight is incompetent and by extension  so is FREAKING MAB

Cthoniq:
Mab has demonstrated her dubious regard for the accords several times, and she literally wrote into them that there is no spirit of the accords, only the letter. In basically every book she's had a major appearance in, she's come very close to violating the accords herself. She doesn't care about the moral principle of keeping clear of grey areas, she uses those grey areas to her advantage. Keep in mind that she's helped nations violate each other's territory, tried to kill freeholding lords, specifically ordered her knight into situations she knew were dancing on the bleeding edge of the law. Then Lara Raith the queen of tretchery comes up like "hey mab, do you mind if I cash in my favors in an extremely specific way that gives me access to the literal only person in your court who is both capable of violating winter law, and probably won't tell you if he does?" You think mab didn't read the subtext there? Mab is not an ethical person, she's a person bound by ironclad rules she does her best to violate.

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