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In Retrospect The Relevance Of Storm Front and Full Moon
Conspiracy Theorist:
The ability to communicate is not an Intellectus, we have seen how an Intellectus operates from the inside with Harry, you just know, rather communicate. Mab is powerful enough to communicate with her other selves, she doesn’t know what they are all doing. There is no indication in the WOJ it is other than communicate, but Jim is free to change his mind.
Intellectus are rare, that Harry has two is an anomaly as Winter Knight and Warden. However he needs both to undertake both roles. Mab does not need to coordinate with other universes so form follows function, as with the Archive, the Mothers and Uriel’s Intellectus. The Mothers Intellectus may include what their alternates are doing, if so no need for Mab.
I do suspect on the basis of this theory that the Merlin may have a limited Intellectus of all bottle caps in the Dresdenverse.
The_Sibelis:
To know about, AND communicate. I don't put limits on what they can [know about each other. Based entirely on awareness, the focus on the topic or subject.
A key detail of Harry's interpreted intellectus, focus/forethought. Which.. isn't intellectus? the island has it, Harry has a mental bond through which he shares it. But as with the withdrawing of the water of the chosing of that particular path right after the ceremony. It's limited to what DR is communicating back and forth with his thoughts directly. Intellectus would be the pure unbroken strand of space time I think.
That's part of what makes me think it's her... Actually mid thought, connection to the stone table that gives Mab a form of intellectus?.Which also may explain her weird chess game insight between her and Titania🤔 though not between Mabs like a outergates connect would... I mean, wouldn't they share in their mother's intellectus as far as needed to know job stuff? Mmm, she has multiple options for reasons/ways she'd have it.
I think the crux is the definition of intellectus. I think it's a lot broader of a term used to introduce an idea to us about beings having knowledge that's contrary to omniscient. So we'd have an idea about how beings can know certain things directly regarding their domain. Which sans the Well beefing him up, DR is really just the embodiment of a particular thing, an island. But the Courts/queens show embodiments can be immaterial concepts too.(still wanna see the genus of Chicago!)
Conspiracy Theorist:
Mab is almost certainly aware of the Many Worlds multiverse theory and that other versions of herself exist. That does not an Intellectus make.
Besides Mab hates anyone trying to move in on her power base, she didn’t speak to her own twin sister Aurora, her fellow Queen for nearly a millennia
and wouldn’t have spoken to her in Battle Ground except that after a thousand years she was more annoyed with Harry than Mab (it’s a gift of Harry’s) .
If she can’t get on with the being most like her in the universe, she is not going to get on with a being even more like herself from another universe. I doubt very much there is a Council of Mab’s.
If as I suspect Uriel pulls the plug on the doomed universes before they can fall to the Outsiders, Mab having an Intellectus would throw a spanner in the works, she would register the end of other Mab’s, like Harry registering the deaths of his banner men. That would be soul destroying
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 10, 2023, 01:59:51 PM ---Mab is almost certainly aware of the Many Worlds multiverse theory and that other versions of herself exist. That does not an Intellectus make.
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I'm pretty sure I recently saw WoJ that Mab isn't just "aware" of the "theory," but capable of communications between alt!Mabs. That's a hell of a lot more... but still does not an Intellectus make; there would have to be some sort of shared consciousness, while the existing WoJ could mean something as fragile & laborious as an inter-universe dit-dit-dah Morse!
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 10, 2023, 01:59:51 PM --- ... her own twin sister Aurora ...
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Titania, I presume you meant.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 10, 2023, 01:59:51 PM --- ... If she can’t get on with the being most like her in the universe, she is not going to get on with a being even more like herself from another universe ...
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We don't know their histories, but I suspect a love-triangle (with mortal-Mab and mortal-Titania as two corners), with their Faerie mantling happening more-or-less at the climax of the emotional debacle. Then the Mantles kept the flames smoldering & reconciliation incredibly hard; then The Oberon Affair re-igniting the blaze.
I think two cold-and-logical Mab's might each see the advantages of communications between them; the insurmountable barriers mean that none can gain advantage over the others, none can suffer a setback in their own universe, and the differing intel each can turn up can be shared by all.
Win-win for Mab.
As usual.
(indeed, this could help explain how Mab so-often seems to know so very much, even though we never see her consulting with a spy-network)
Conspiracy Theorist:
Apparently no Oberon according to a WOJ but she had a thing for the original Merlin, but with Odin’s multiple identities anything is possible.
In some Arthurian Legend Oberon is Zwingli of the Faeries and is the son of Julius Caesar and Morgana Le Fay. There is still debate as to whether Mab is Morgana or the Lady of the Lake, I plump towards the latter (cold dark places, far too many connections with Lake Michigan) and her sister the other.
Yes Titania not Aurora, all these Faerie Queens look alike……
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