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dying curses
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 26, 2023, 11:26:25 PM ---I would point out that Father Forthill in Ghost Story was on the verge of being shepherded to his afterlife by an angel of death. He was not alone.
Cassius was a former Denarian, as such he should know about Angels of death. Was this Cassius intent? To try to prevent Harry from from being shepherded to his afterlife so that others may hijack his spirit to take it elsewhere, as was feared for Forthill?
As I point out Harry is extremely resistant to anything which preordains his death, but afterwards? Unfortunately for Cassius though Harry has an Archangel watching over him.
Cassius wasn’t trying to kill Harry, he was trying to damn him,
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I think that Angel of Death would laugh at any human's Death Curse, except she does not seem the laughing type. She said Satan himself could not stop her from performing her duty. I think, in this role... she is stronger than Uriel. (Azrael?)
And I think it was Kumori said Cowl would not fear Harry's Death Curse, so if the gap in power is bg enough, it gets negated. Also possible Harry will get strong enough to shrug off the curse.
Mira:
--- Quote ---And I think it was Kumori said Cowl would not fear Harry's Death Curse, so if the gap in power is bg enough, it gets negated. Also possible Harry will get strong enough to shrug off the curse.
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I think if she said it, I don't doubt you, I just don't remember her saying it.. But if she said it, I think it might be simply bravado on her part. I was going to say unless Cowl isn't human, but then Lord Raith came to mind, is a vamp of the White Court considered human? Margaret's curse was very effective on him, so if one does one's homework on Cowl I think it is possible to come up with an effective death curse. Following the same logic, I don't think anyone is so strong to neutralize a well targeted death curse.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I think it is a matter of targeting, Cowl is not welLestablished enough as and identity for a curse to latch. It’s like cursing David Bowie instead of David jones. It’s like Uriel and Mr Sunshine.
Worse if Cowl is Nameless then there is no proper name for the curse to bite on, Cowl is doubly protected, indicating that Kumori knows this. Suggesting if her identity is revealed she can definitely reveal Cowl’s
If it is Sarissa, she is now subject to summer Law and now can’t lie to Harry. She has avoided interaction with Harry at Pewce Talks and Battle Ground but likely can’t during Next Book.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 10, 2023, 08:29:49 AM ---I think it is a matter of targeting, Cowl is not welLestablished enough as and identity for a curse to latch. It’s like cursing David Bowie instead of David jones. It’s like Uriel and Mr Sunshine.
Worse if Cowl is Nameless then there is no proper name for the curse to bite on, Cowl is doubly protected, indicating that Kumori knows this. Suggesting if her identity is revealed she can definitely reveal Cowl’s
If it is Sarissa, she is now subject to summer Law and now can’t lie to Harry. She has avoided interaction with Harry at Pewce Talks and Battle Ground but likely can’t during Next Book.
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I agree that "use names" and "nicknames" and such-like are not metaphysically potent.
Except maybe they sometimes/somehow can be.
As noted in the other thread, Uriel was actually alarmed by Harry familiarizing his name to "Uri".
Maybe it's a Starborn thing?
Maybe by naming him Cowl, Harry has actually Named the nameless son...
Which, in itself, would be enough for Cowl to hate & fear him.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I would need to check but I do not believe Harry has nicknamed him in The Law.
We may have that to look forward to.
What may occur is a successful sommuning by Harry using The Nameless Son, Talvi Inverno and Cowl plus some nickname fixing a single identity upon him which makes him vulnerable. What nicknames has Harry given Cowl?
Got it Harry, calls him Dark Master of the Evil Bathrobes in their very first meeting in Dead Beat when Cowl says to Harry you can call me Cowl. If Harry used all four names in a successful summoning he stands a chance of pinning the last as A True Name. of course this would be in front of everybody important.
Although Mouse does know that Ash referred to Cowl as The Master of the Future. I prefer Dark Master of the Evil Bathrobes.
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