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The WK AND SK, AND LADIES power level and purpose
Elequosoraptor:
When did he use lightning? I would have said wind for the early books, lightning shows up in Storm Front and technically Fool Moon true, but it's hardly a motif. I don't think he uses it again until Turn Coat against the skin walker, and then in Battle Grounds.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Elequosoraptor on May 30, 2023, 07:29:59 AM ---When did he use lightning? I would have said wind for the early books, lightning shows up in Storm Front and technically Fool Moon true, but it's hardly a motif. I don't think he uses it again until Turn Coat against the skin walker, and then in Battle Grounds.
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first few books it's a whole motif. When he gathers his power and 'gets serious' it calls thunder to the sky outside(can't recall when, too caught up in the imagery of the wizened tree that refuses to move, JB's tribute scene to Gandolfs ye shall not pass scene).
I'd define his motif as whatever aura he's naturally manifest when calling deep upon his power. After GP it mainly changes to fire.
Though speaking of, lightning and wind seem to be commonly twinned in magic, and I think Elaine has that kinda motif going on in WK iirc? I know she uses electric stuff.
The theory behind it's kinda branched meta. But it's based on the idea Dresden, or potential paths of his mirror others character development, especially power wise. Early books I'd have pegged his magic as Odin/sky father styled. And indeed Harry's had many crossover points of reference with Odin as a character. Young Odin looks like a running back, Early Harry runs alot. Wintery Odin gets big and beefy. Harry as WK has been lifting barely human weights. Odin had a holographic emitter in the same vein of magical thinking as LC. Ect. Though some things do diverge as well.
Melriken:
--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on May 28, 2023, 03:00:54 PM ---The Ladies in my view are meant to be the Knights director giving the Knights orders and information about when and where to strike.
The Knights in my theory are meant to introduce new battle strategies and techniques. Teaching the armies that the Lady recruits how to use modern weapons.
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I think it would be better to say that the Knights are 4-star generals to the Ladies President... or if you are British the ladies Prime Minister and the queen's well... queen...
The 4-star general plans the battle and directs the troops and makes the decisions while the president (prime minister) decides the objectives and goals and sets policy.
Basil:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on May 30, 2023, 03:05:35 AM ---I'd love to know exactly what Butters was looking at after Harry made that ice block to Dave them on the waterfront. That's probably the deepest he's ever drawn it in and used. I imagine in my head some wicked version of old man winter lol
I don't think it's precisely a battery tho. Even if that's the basic usage Harry can see for using it. From how it's described, I think it's an active channel TO Mabs power source. His limit's are potentially only her limits as far as raw power. He'd just have to give himself over enough to winter and have the precise ingenuity of how he planned on using it. It may, probably, kill him to push past a certain limit. Though that'd depend on how he manifest that energy. Through spell work? Yea, he can only personally gas so much before he's drained. Mortal an all. If he was just using himself as a raw conduit for it, more similar to when he took on Maeve in CD. Then he might be able to handle it. Though what'd he manifest as is up for debate. Something like the snow monster from frozen lol.
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Harry is making a mistake accepting too much of what Butters theorizes. Butters is the one who gave Harry a reverse magic feather by explaining that the Mantle just hijacks his pain thresholds. Butters had seen a lot by then, but not nearly enough to be a magical, but not magic consultant.
In the Lake, Butters is doing some quick math. Phase changes -- ice to liquid/liquid to steam -- represent absolutely stupid amounts of energy. He has just realized how much ice Harry made in just a few seconds to float half of a sunken warehouse to the surface and it probably compares quite favorably to a small power plant:
According to Wolfram Alpha it is about 3.19 x 10^6 KJ (to freeze 30 tons of water), and if it took 30 seconds that works out to be .1 Mega Watts.
So, yeah that's a crazy feat of power all things considered
Tinfoil hat:
--- Quote from: Basil on July 25, 2023, 10:03:11 PM ---Harry is making a mistake accepting too much of what Butters theorizes. Butters is the one who gave Harry a reverse magic feather by explaining that the Mantle just hijacks his pain thresholds. Butters had seen a lot by then, but not nearly enough to be a magical, but not magic consultant.
In the Lake, Butters is doing some quick math. Phase changes -- ice to liquid/liquid to steam -- represent absolutely stupid amounts of energy. He has just realized how much ice Harry made in just a few seconds to float half of a sunken warehouse to the surface and it probably compares quite favorably to a small power plant:
According to Wolfram Alpha it is about 3.19 x 10^6 KJ (to freeze 30 tons of water), and if it took 30 seconds that works out to be .1 Mega Watts.
So, yeah that's a crazy feat of power all things considered
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You big beautiful nerd you! Bringing Science into this.
Butter' s theory makes sense given the info he has. And everything he sees just shows him how scary THE WK IS.
The WK IS more powerful than anyone including Butters thinks. I think he is in the same range has most Fae Eldest.
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