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If E=K: A different way to look at this idea
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: OutsideIn on May 19, 2023, 05:11:17 AM ---Cowl isn't Justin.
Evidence in verbal exchange with evil bob
Zero familiarity in my opinion.
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And yet, Cowl knew about Evil Bob in the first place. I doubt Cowl and Evil Bob would have a similar relationship to Harry and normal Bob, so if you're expecting that sort of familiarity you would probably be disappointed.
The relationship is a very clear one of master and servant. What would such a conversation sound like if it was more "familiar"?
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on May 18, 2023, 11:35:02 PM ---I don't doubt Harry's actions made a lot of noise ... but I don't think the Walker was making a serious shot at his life at that point. From the unclouded memory flashback in GS, it was pretty clearly trying to goad him into using magic for violence. It got more than it was bargaining for with setting a gas pump on fire, but if it had wanted him dead, it could have done it easily.
I'm also not even sure Justin was really the one who sent it, for that matter. I think Harry might have that assumption wrong.
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I think that's clear from Lea's hints in Ghost Story. Justin may have summoned HWWBh, but I doubt he was calling the shots. More likely reporting back to his superiors...
Mira:
--- Quote ---And yet, Cowl knew about Evil Bob in the first place. I doubt Cowl and Evil Bob would have a similar relationship to Harry and normal Bob, so if you're expecting that sort of familiarity you would probably be disappointed.
The relationship is a very clear one of master and servant. What would such a conversation sound like if it was more "familiar"?
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Cowl could easily be Kemmler then, because before he was "Bob," he was the servant of Kemmler, then Justin and evil version of himself that we saw when Harry ordered Bob to recall that version of himself... That version, clearly "Evil Bob" tried to kill Harry.
--- Quote ---I think that's clear from Lea's hints in Ghost Story. Justin may have summoned HWWBh, but I doubt he was calling the shots. More likely reporting back to his superiors...
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I agree, he wasn't calling the shots, it is also clear Justin knew what he was looking for when he adopted those two orphans. Where did he get that information?
Melriken:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on May 18, 2023, 11:35:02 PM ---I don't doubt Harry's actions made a lot of noise ... but I don't think the Walker was making a serious shot at his life at that point. From the unclouded memory flashback in GS, it was pretty clearly trying to goad him into using magic for violence. It got more than it was bargaining for with setting a gas pump on fire, but if it had wanted him dead, it could have done it easily.
I'm also not even sure Justin was really the one who sent it, for that matter. I think Harry might have that assumption wrong.
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I agree, the walker was trying to goad Harry, either to get him to use black magic to corrupt him or just playing with his food for fun (I lean to corrupting Harry)
I think Justin did send it and sent it to get Harry to use Black Magic not kill Harry. I always thought that Harry knew it was Justin that sent it because Harry had managed to reflect the summons back on the summoner and the Walker had killed Justin as a result, but I didn't see that in a re-read so I don't know where that idea came from.
Regardless, from the outside it looks like an outsider trying to kill a wizard and should have gotten the Gatekeeper's attention, so I wonder why it didn't.
Melriken:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 21, 2023, 10:06:52 AM ---Cowl could easily be Kemmler then, because before he was "Bob," he was the servant of Kemmler, then Justin and evil version of himself that we saw when Harry ordered Bob to recall that version of himself... That version, clearly "Evil Bob" tried to kill Harry.
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No, Kemmler wouldn't need the word in the first place.
If E=K then Simon didn't die at Archangel and is Cowl... This would Devastate both Harry (because Elaine) and Eb (because Simon) and feels like Jim.
The_Sibelis:
I really rather doubt Eb will survive for that pay off anyway. That's end game stuff and Harry's gonna have the BS by then. No way Eb's surviving. Though to me that's a good reason it's not Simon, there's no personal pay off for Harry there. No revelation in his identity 🤷♂️
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