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Fallout of E=K
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 27, 2023, 12:13:19 AM ---Nemesis is limited to 13 ...
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Cite, please?
I know it as a popular fantheory, but I know of no "canon" or WoJ on the topic.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 27, 2023, 12:13:19 AM ---... it cannot therefore infect the entire Paranet...
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If a few key leaders -- Elaine, 1-2 other key/influential Paranetters -- are Nemfected, the entire Paranet would trend in whatever direction Nemesis wants, and most info known to the Paranet would be known to Nemesis... and mostly, Nemesis would act to prevent critical info from flowing up to Harry, or to Carlos/Wardens, etc.
It's worth considering that Carlos had a fair number of interactions with Elaine, but she didn't try to tell him about "Grey Cloak" sightings associated with multiple practitioner-deaths in multiple cities. I suspect she had a good feel for him as a reasonably honest, decent guy... why not put him on guard?
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 27, 2023, 12:13:19 AM --- ... only bombard its members with spam and cat videos.
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Arguably worse than Nemfection.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 27, 2023, 10:53:50 PM ---Cite, please?
I know it as a popular fantheory, but I know of no "canon" or WoJ on the topic.
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There's a WOJ that there is an upper limit on the number of beings it can control at once. Which makes sense, because if it could just spread without limit and infect all the (non-starborn) mortal population, it probably already would have won that way.
It's fan theory that the number of the cap is 13, though.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on April 28, 2023, 03:31:23 AM ---There's a WOJ that there is an upper limit on the number of beings it can control at once. Which makes sense, because if it could just spread without limit and infect all the (non-starborn) mortal population, it probably already would have won that way.
It's fan theory that the number of the cap is 13, though.
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I'm more the fan of 3 at once, but yea. There is a defined limit, we just don't know for certain.
Conspiracy Theorist:
It’s 13, Corner Hounds are just a single Outsider with 13 bodies, that is made clear in Peace Talks.
The Corner Hounds though create bodies from Ectoplasm from the Never Never, they are the only animating spirits, in possession they are taking on beings with differing Wills and Power levels against whom they are competing. Nemesis was forced out of Lea we saw a battle wills which Lea won, with the help of Mab. Nemesis probably had their entire essence imbued in Lea, passed to Maeve and then to Justine.
Justine can split off into another 12 mortals weakening her, perhaps allowing Justine and the baby to overwhelm their fragment of Nemesis. Nemesis was likely whole when facing Harry before Demonreach they would need their full power for that.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 28, 2023, 08:08:20 PM ---It’s 13, Corner Hounds are just a single Outsider with 13 bodies, that is made clear in Peace Talks...
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I don't see that the Cornerhounds' 13 says anything about Nemesis.
I suspect the "correct" answer might be "however many this story requires."
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