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Mira:

--- Quote ---The island seems to have limited initiative, and most of the high-powered defenses need the Warden to activate them.
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 Very true, before Harry became it's Warden, the island appeared to rely on psychic attacks on would be human inhabitants.  That is why the attempts to inhabit it failed, however we have no clue as to how vulnerable the island was to non-human and supernatural forces.  It does need a Warden to fully implement all defenses, remember Alfred's great relief to have a Warden again.  Why? Because there are defenses that it cannot handle on it's own. These defenses apparently are complex, it took Harry a whole year to learn them, at a time when he basically had no other tasks while he was isolated on the island before Skin Game.  Merlin's logic as to why he set up the island's defenses like this in the first place, given it's inmates, has yet to be revealed.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on February 13, 2023, 03:14:26 PM --- ... These defenses apparently are complex, it took Harry a whole year to learn them, at a time when he basically had no other tasks while he was isolated on the island before Skin Game ...
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I thought he was doing a few other things... didn't he use wood from the island to make a new staff?


--- Quote from: Mira on February 13, 2023, 03:14:26 PM ---  Merlin's logic as to why he set up the island's defenses like this in the first place, given it's inmates, has yet to be revealed.
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I think that you need a living person to make intelligent, intuitive decisions, to be adaptable.

A spell is a relatively fixed thing; anything nailed down that way is unable to adjust or adapt.  Sooner or later the BadGuys(tm) would figure out a weakness to exploit.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: g33k on February 13, 2023, 01:57:07 AM ---Mostly, it depends.


SG-Harry wouldn't have been bluffing ... on the island, it's likely he really could have taken a bunch of Warden hardcases and SC members, all at once.

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If they came after him one at a time, like a Bruce Lee movie, sure. Alfred could take out the whole White council. But can he target multiple targets at once? We don't really know that.  When he fought Lara and Freydis on the island, he didn't ever target both at the same time. He bound Lara in the grass. Then he swatted Freydis with a tree. Lara pulled free, Harry put her in quicksand. Freydis came on, Harry sank her too. One at a time. The hardcases may not be able to hurt Alfred, but they could Harry. Alfred can protect him against any - but all? We don't know yet

g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on February 14, 2023, 09:39:32 AM ---If they came after him one at a time, like a Bruce Lee movie, sure. Alfred could take out the whole White council. But can he target multiple targets at once? We don't really know that.  When he fought Lara and Freydis on the island, he didn't ever target both at the same time. He bound Lara in the grass. Then he swatted Freydis with a tree. Lara pulled free, Harry put her in quicksand. Freydis came on, Harry sank her too. One at a time. The hardcases may not be able to hurt Alfred, but they could Harry. Alfred can protect him against any - but all? We don't know yet
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As things stand now, I think we do:  Harry stated as simple fact that -- with the island's defenses on-tap -- he could have shut down the entire Outsider-assault on the island, without allies or other assistance; and that was a massive assault with multiple entities involved (including one of the Walkers).
 
 

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: g33k on February 15, 2023, 01:17:25 AM ---As things stand now, I think we do:  Harry stated as simple fact that -- with the island's defenses on-tap -- he could have shut down the entire Outsider-assault on the island, without allies or other assistance; and that was a massive assault with multiple entities involved (including one of the Walkers).

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and we know that isn't simply a keep-out dome like the one Molly used on the island already? Could be an offshoot of that research - Harry does shields well,

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