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How was “the Well” on Demonreach filled with inmates?

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seanham:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on January 02, 2023, 03:03:51 AM ---Why do we presume Merlin or the Dragons created the ley line network around Demonreach? Maybe the network was not created by Merlin when he built the jail, maybe Merlin built the jail here BECAUSE the ley lines were here.
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No, the Gatekeeper clearly states on page 385 of TC (soft cover)


--- Quote ---"The ley line you speak of does not go through the island," he said. "This is where it wells up. The island is its source."
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The Dragons or anyone else didn't create the ley line. The ley line is created by the combined magical energy of hundreds or thousands of powerful beings all in one place. The Dragons may have created other lines, but I think it is more likely every ley line comes from a place of great significance.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Dragons likely created the other ley lines into which the energies ofvDemobreach are grounded into the wider network.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on January 02, 2023, 05:12:41 AM ---The Swords can’t kill the Fallen only the hosts. The noose protects Nick, not Anduriel. The Fallen can heal their host and can stem the ravages of time.


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Didn't say kill the Fallen, said kill Nic.

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If immortals were so easy to kill Demonreach wouldn’t exist. We know:-

1. All immortals can be killed on Halloween (immortals do not like this to be known)
2. The Faerie Queens can be killed on the Stone Table
3. Repeated blasts from the Eye of Baelor can kill an immortal, probably by breaking reality in relation to them and their immortality.

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Do we know ALL immortals can be killed on Halloween? We know the Fae court. Are Angels vulnerable? The Fallen? Hades?

If ALL immortals were killable on Halloween, I would expect traditional executions on Demonreach on Halloween. Harry could take a Naag out, have it stand facing the water, which itself is no threat, and shoot it in the back of the head. 
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Indeed there is no reason for Michael not to think that he killed Sirriothrax rather than disincorporate him, Harry only finds out about killing immortals in Summer Knight because Bob found out this information and had to flee Winter. Ferro isn’t going to set him straight and it may explain why he was so forgiving of Michael in GP he knew Sirriothrax had only been disincorporated and not killed or imprisoned in Demonreach, and would be back. Michael is less clued into the supernatural than Harry, so he wouldn’t know.


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and what reason do we have to think that discorporation is real? Ferro might simply be following rules he agreed to to be allowed into reality. If Siriothrax was a business matter for the Knights, their high-ups may frown on taking revenge. Though if Michael oversteps, Ferro might be allowed such.  Have we seen anything from this side of the Gates that just comes back and re-forms a body? And we never heard the body vanished. HWWB is an Outsider, rules may not apply there. 

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: seanham on January 02, 2023, 05:18:40 PM ---No, the Gatekeeper clearly states on page 385 of TC (soft cover) "The ley line you speak of does not go through the island," he said. "This is where it wells up. The island is its source."
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The Island. Not the beings. We heard that Edinburgh is also a nexus. Chichen Itza. I think they look at the lines like settlers may have once seen a waterfall. Hey, there's a place I can build a mill! Water power will grind my grain! Steel towns popped up around coal. We know the stones of the buildings have power infused - Merlin likely tapped the Well. Maybe they STILL tap the Well for power. Maybe Merlin harnessed that power to create Alfred... maybe it powers Alfred, and that is why he needs to stay near/on the island.

The Lines draw the building of the Wizard HQ, or Demonreach. Or Itza. The prisoners don't generate them. 

vincentric:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on January 03, 2023, 05:45:24 AM ---

The Island. Not the beings. We heard that Edinburgh is also a nexus. Chichen Itza. I think they look at the lines like settlers may have once seen a waterfall. Hey, there's a place I can build a mill! Water power will grind my grain! Steel towns popped up around coal. We know the stones of the buildings have power infused - Merlin likely tapped the Well. Maybe they STILL tap the Well for power. Maybe Merlin harnessed that power to create Alfred... maybe it powers Alfred, and that is why he needs to stay near/on the island.

The Lines draw the building of the Wizard HQ, or Demonreach. Or Itza. The prisoners don't generate them.

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We also hear from Bob in Cold Days that the waste heat of the prisoners is what powers the ley lines. No prisoners, no energy. The ley lines are also coming from the middle of a body of water which would normally disperse the magic. Merlin probably set them up to bleed off excess power or the pent-up power would have exploded by now.

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