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Can Demonreach do this?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on December 05, 2022, 04:57:20 AM --- We don't know if it even can be done. Do we have any record of any wizard cleaving off the demon? Maggie was a wizard of skill, and had plenty of opportunity. Did she ever split one off?
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--- Quote from: Regenbogen on December 05, 2022, 06:17:08 AM ---I was thinking: maybe it would be possible to make the demon sleep, instead of separating it. Like Lea did with Susan and Martin. So technically Thomas would be awake and possibly alive after intense feeding WITH his demon still there but inactive.
I can imagine, that Demonreach could do that.
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We don't know that it can be done, no. I suspect the same method Lea used on Rampires won't work on Whampires, but I guess it depends on whether Jim has addressed this in his own internal metaphysical headcanon... and if not, how Jim wants it to work (but I note than Jim "seldom" wants Harry to have a ready solution in-hand!). I still like the idea (don't recall who proposed it, sorry) that the Swords each have a Whampire destiny:
Raith/Lust/Love/Amoracchius (and Thomas Raith as the KotC to wield Amoracchius against the Outsiders)
Skavis/Despair/Hope/Esperacchius
Malvora/Fear/Faith/Fidelacchius
I suspect Margaret LaFay couldn't really experiment, tho: Papa Raith would likely frown on any wizard working out a method to un-Whamp someone, it would be too huge a vulnerability once the method (inevitably) got loose. So no, she didn't have an opportunity (IMHO).
Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 05, 2022, 05:48:48 PM ---We don't know that it can be done, no. I suspect the same method Lea used on Rampires won't work on Whampires, but I guess it depends on whether Jim has addressed this in his own internal metaphysical headcanon... and if not, how Jim wants it to work (but I note than Jim "seldom" wants Harry to have a ready solution in-hand!). I still like the idea (don't recall who proposed it, sorry) that the Swords each have a Whampire destiny:
Raith/Lust/Love/Amoracchius (and Thomas Raith as the KotC to wield Amoracchius against the Outsiders)
Skavis/Despair/Hope/Esperacchius
Malvora/Fear/Faith/Fidelacchius
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This is one of the possibilities I like too.
Or it will be a combination of sword and Demonreach.
--- Quote ---I suspect Margaret LaFay couldn't really experiment, tho: Papa Raith would likely frown on any wizard working out a method to un-Whamp someone, it would be too huge a vulnerability once the method (inevitably) got loose. So no, she didn't have an opportunity (IMHO).
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I am starting to suspect that this kind of knowledge could have been why he hunted her down. She found something out he didn't want her to pass on. Probably the knowledge is there somehow. Could be with Lea and Harry just has to ask the right question. And first he has to know that there is a question to be asked. So not exactly an easy way.
seanham:
Could Fidelacchius kill the demon side but save the human side?
But to take this a step further, how would Thomas react if this was possible? For years now, he has been tormented by his demon, but it allows him to be an ally to Harry, do good for other people, serve in the Oblivian war, and protect his girlfriend. Yes, he probably hates his demon and the need to feed on people, but he very well could feel useless for being a vanilla mortal and need to relearn how to live.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on December 05, 2022, 06:17:08 AM ---I was thinking: maybe it would be possible to make the demon sleep, instead of separating it. Like Lea did with Susan and Martin. So technically Thomas would be awake and possibly alive after intense feeding WITH his demon still there but inactive.
I can imagine, that Demonreach could do that.
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I expect it is the demon that actually feeds, not the "human" side. So the demon has to be active
Also, Martin and Susan were born human. Whamps are born Whamps. Nothing to go back to.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 05, 2022, 05:48:48 PM ---I suspect Margaret LaFay couldn't really experiment, tho: Papa Raith would likely frown on any wizard working out a method to un-Whamp someone, it would be too huge a vulnerability once the method (inevitably) got loose. So no, she didn't have an opportunity (IMHO).
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Margaret looks like she could have taught sneaky to Harry. She was evading the Wardens for years. I think the question is more would she have had a reason to try
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