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g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on December 01, 2022, 04:39:17 AM --- ... I'd think with all their money and contacts, the MacFinns would have contact with the wizards. Have a guy on retainer. Think they couldn't get a White Council guy for a 10K/year retainer? Money would be insignificant to them. 
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I think Harry is pretty unusual in his money troubles.

In Proven Guilty, Harry explained one of Molly's options was to become wealthy from her magic.
From Ghost Story (where Molly was the Rag Lady, living on the streets & largely without financial resources) to Cold Days was no more than a year (likely much less), and she had done a total 180; a favor for the Svartalves got her a swank apartment, but she herself had filled it with top-grade goods.

Other paranet threads have explored wizard & White Council finances.  I'm pretty sure that (if they feel cash-strapped, and aren't as pig-headed as Dresden) most wizards can easily become wealthy if they have even the slightest desire to do so.

I doubt that money is much of a motivator for most wizards.

Mira:

--- Quote ---I doubt that money is much of a motivator for most wizards.

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  I don't think that is what Ed is saying, it is more like Finn has to the funds to do a swift search.  Wonder if he checked with relatives?  You'd think over the years they'd produce a back up circle.

Ed0517:

--- Quote ---I expect Finn had some basic concepts of the circle... but he SURELY should have known how very dangerous a Loup is. And if he had the circle concepts, he might want to make sure Kim knows this thing he becomes is a major ass-kicker.
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--- Quote from: Mira on December 01, 2022, 12:01:18 PM ---My point, how is it he didn't see through Kim? 
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

He knows a little, and she knows more. The average guy in the street might not be able to tell the difference between, say, a 4th year college biology student and her professor. He just knows both know a lot more than him. 


--- Quote ---Don't have much to add to most of your arguments, except about the chicken dinner reply.  While
yeah, most young people are arrogant and a bit know it all, Kim has a lot in common with Molly here.  It could also be why unless kids with talent are taken under the wing of a wizard they fall easy prey to the temptation of using their talent to do stuff that ought not be attempted except by professionals, or if the professionals don't do them, there is a reason why.  If they pull it off it leads them to think they can use it to more stuff, next thing you know you have a warlock on your hands.
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I meant that arrogance is very common among wizards, and you had a very good point you made quite clearly.

You watch the kids not because of greater arrogance but because of greater damage potential if they go wrong. Like why you are not as afraid of the cocker spaniel that you know bit a kid as you are of the Rottweiler who has never bit anyone.



--- Quote --- why didn't Finn simply ask Kim if she knew of any wizards in the area that might help him?
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He was convinced she knew what she was doing. She thought she did. She didn't.
 

--- Quote ---She compares herself to Harry because he isn't that much older than her and doesn't take into account, experience, training, and talent level.  At that point confidentiality should have gone out the window, but Kim let her ego and perhaps her own ignorance get in the way.
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Yes. Rather than look for the money to do this, take a finder's fee and bring in Harry. 

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: g33k on December 01, 2022, 05:47:52 PM ---I think Harry is pretty unusual in his money troubles.

In Proven Guilty, Harry explained one of Molly's options was to become wealthy from her magic.
From Ghost Story (where Molly was the Rag Lady, living on the streets & largely without financial resources) to Cold Days was no more than a year (likely much less), and she had done a total 180; a favor for the Svartalves got her a swank apartment, but she herself had filled it with top-grade goods.

Other paranet threads have explored wizard & White Council finances.  I'm pretty sure that (if they feel cash-strapped, and aren't as pig-headed as Dresden) most wizards can easily become wealthy if they have even the slightest desire to do so.

I doubt that money is much of a motivator for most wizards.

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Molly got it big from the svartalves. They may be paying a stipend as well, not just giving her the apartment - but if you suddenly did not have to pay rent/mortgage/ property taxes... couldn't you upgrade YOUR gear?  She found a rich patron fast.

We do not know how rich the other wizards are - we haven't seen them. I never got the impression Justin lived it up. Eb doesn't, but that could be him. Possibly Molly's talents could get her rich. Heck, how good a PI tail could she be with her veils? Industrial espionage? Her talents may be marketable. What does Harry do with his? He breaks things. Hardly low key, either.

and I think $10,000 a year to be on call is a nice fee when you rarely even get called.

Mira:

--- Quote ---He knows a little, and she knows more. The average guy in the street might not be able to tell the difference between, say, a 4th year college biology student and her professor. He just knows both know a lot more than him. 

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 Finn is no bumbling fool, and his "little problem" isn't something he knows little about, his life and others depends upon it... He'd know as much as possible about it. Kim knows nothing, she just thinks she does,that's the problem.

--- Quote ---He was convinced she knew what she was doing. She thought she did. She didn't.
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Then he was either a total ignorant fool easily duped, or desperate. 

--- Quote ---Yes. Rather than look for the money to do this, take a finder's fee and bring in Harry. 
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Except it never was about money with her, that wasn't what she was after.  Notice, her first move is to try and bribe Harry with a steak dinner..

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