The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
So Fitz is...
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 13, 2022, 12:03:58 PM ---Maybe, maybe not. The lesson Harry learned teaching Molly is his own talent and power isn't set in
stone, he can always improve. Oh he figured out long ago that he could improve his "gadgets," his shield bracelet, his power rings etc, but he never figured out he could improve himself. Why? I think because Justin wanted him to learn what he wanted him to learn, thus he could keep control of him. So I think he drilled into Harry's head from a young age that if he wasn't good in a certain area, like veils, he wasn't going to get any better at it so don't waste time. He wanted Harry to know kaboom fire magic, but he never taught him how to control it. So for many years Harry assumed he was only good at blowing up buildings but not the subtleties of fire magic.
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So you are saying that Harry is himself the ultimate magical tool?
I can get behind that.
One reason older wizards may appear more rounded and powerful may be that they have had multiple apprentices over the years. This improves their belief in the extent and range of their power. Indeed this may be a selfish by-product of the Master/Apprentice system in favour of the Master.
In addition Harry was trained to be a weapon by Justin, his initial training obviously shaped his belief in his power, but training Molly helped change that belief. Again a selfish by product of the Master/Apprentice system.
g33k:
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 13, 2022, 04:07:46 PM --- The thing is though, veils would have been a huge asset to his work as a PI. Being able to sneak into places or follow people undetected ...
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Kind of my point: He gets by with what he already knows, because he's being too busy to learn veils/etc. For example, he used a potion to get into the jail in Fool Moon. Only took him a short while to whip it up.
"Proved" to him that he didn't need to put in the time & effort to get good at veils...
Yes, obviously a veil would be more versatile, and can be whipped out whenever you need one instead of needing to brew a potion first. And when he got good (well, less sucky) at veils, he did begin using them regularly!
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 14, 2022, 01:46:31 AM ---Kind of my point: He gets by with what he already knows, because he's being too busy to learn veils/etc. For example, he used a potion to get into the jail in Fool Moon. Only took him a short while to whip it up.
"Proved" to him that he didn't need to put in the time & effort to get good at veils...
Yes, obviously a veil would be more versatile, and can be whipped out whenever you need one instead of needing to brew a potion first. And when he got good (well, less sucky) at veils, he did begin using them regularly!
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You will also remember that it was Bob that dictated the recipe for the potion for Harry in the first place. He also out of boredom made a love potion that Susan accidentally drank first instead of the escape potion. So it wasn't even like Harry was making up his own brew, yeah, it took time and one has to be precise in cooking, but he wasn't creative.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 14, 2022, 01:46:31 AM ---Kind of my point: He gets by with what he already knows, because he's being too busy to learn veils/etc. For example, he used a potion to get into the jail in Fool Moon. Only took him a short while to whip it up.
"Proved" to him that he didn't need to put in the time & effort to get good at veils...
Yes, obviously a veil would be more versatile, and can be whipped out whenever you need one instead of needing to brew a potion first. And when he got good (well, less sucky) at veils, he did begin using them regularly!
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Actually no, Harry’s potion worked on all the senses, a veil only works on sight. Against the nose and ears of a loup Garou a veil is useless. A veil also can be penetrated by the third eye and by a paste made mostly of Tiger Balm.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on December 14, 2022, 05:01:45 PM ---Actually no, Harry’s potion worked on all the senses, a veil only works on sight. Against the nose and ears of a loup Garou a veil is useless. A veil also can be penetrated by the third eye and by a paste made mostly of Tiger Balm.
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Even so, g33K's point is valid.. Back in Storm Front and Fool Moon, Harry wasn't doing potions because they were more effective than veils.. In fact he was acting more like Harry Potter in Potions Class with instructor Bob calling the shots. All Harry had to say about veils at that point was that he sucked at them, nothing about potions being more effective. Though in Peace Talks he did come up with a very effective potion.
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