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Justin DuMorne

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morriswalters:
Margaret was only partially enthralled, that's in the quote. Somebody figured out how to make a Starborn, maybe Maggie. For some purpose unexplained. They hold a meeting with the Red Court, the White Court, the White Council and Maggie, maybe representing the Black Council. She shops the idea to the attendees.  Eb doesn't like it but he does his job and takes the proposal the the Senior Council, they bite.  Somewhere in the mix Maggie gets cold feet. Possibly because Raith has decided she can be the baby machine they need. Maybe he pushed to hard, who knows. She bolts an goes into the Never Never.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 29, 2022, 02:29:54 AM ---Margaret was only partially enthralled, that's in the quote. Somebody figured out how to make a Starborn, maybe Maggie. For some purpose unexplained. They hold a meeting with the Red Court, the White Court, the White Council and Maggie, maybe representing the Black Council. She shops the idea to the attendees.  Eb doesn't like it but he does his job and takes the proposal the the Senior Council, they bite.  Somewhere in the mix Maggie gets cold feet. Possibly because Raith has decided she can be the baby machine they need. Maybe he pushed to hard, who knows. She bolts an goes into the Never Never.

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But is what Thomas says reliable?  When Margaret left Lord Raith for Malcolm, Thomas was a six or seven year old child.  Now vamp children maybe different than full vanilla humans, but how much did little Thomas understand what was going on, and how much was he told was going on.  Lara might have told him, but can what she said be trusted?

morriswalters:
In the story Thomas tells you what he's learned and how, how much is reliable is a question with no answer within the text. I'll take Thomas at his word until Butcher decides to make him unreliable as a source.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 29, 2022, 05:11:27 PM ---In the story Thomas tells you what he's learned and how, how much is reliable is a question with no answer within the text. I'll take Thomas at his word until Butcher decides to make him unreliable as a source.

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That's why I think it is unreliable.  Thomas was a small child, so his understanding of what he remembers is unreliable.  Lord Raith isn't going to admit that he wasn't able to enthrall Margaret completely or at all.  Lara who might know and would tell Thomas has her own agenda so I wouldn't fully trust what she said either.  I do believe at some point this will all be revisited and hopefully Jim will have made up his mind by then as to how he wants that to resolve itself.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 27, 2022, 06:03:40 PM ---In which case Lea still overpowers any individual Walker in creation,

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I don't think so. Uriel can destroy galaxies. reduce that for his foot troops, an angel is at least planetary level. In Battle Ground, it was assumed even Ethniu would not play at Michael's with angels hanging around. And Ethniu is well above Mab, who is well above Lea. Even if Lea can beat the average Outsider, she is likely at a disadvantage against a Walker, and easily overmatched by HWWB or their other elites.

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