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Jim interview
g33k:
--- Quote from: MoroccoMole on September 20, 2022, 03:33:46 AM ---In the interview{15:15}, the question was "Was there a clue to who the big bad of the series is in Storm Front?"
Answer " I suppose the sleeper was, there's so many villans, but he's so big he was more of an environment."
Who is the sleeper? is it he who walks beside?
I don't remember anything being mentioned as the sleeper.
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Jim says he's "more of an environment" but I don't think any Outsider is that ubiquitous/pervasive within Creation.
I think Jim was name-dropping a being who hasn't ever had any real "screen time" or focus within the stories.
Dina:
I have not listened to the inteview, but that quote is indeed weird and sounds as if you are right, g33k.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 20, 2022, 07:16:56 PM ---Potentially it does disqualify it, if any hint of collusion could result in hades Vault in Marcone’s Bank from not backing onto the Vault in Hades Realm then having the same space used for a different purpose would do the same thing, especially if there is another candidate which doesn’t have that dual purpose.
There is also the point that both the Gatekeeper and the Winter Lady used the Never Never route to Demonreach. Neither has any known association with Hades or Tartarus, both have associations with Mab and Arctis Tor. Mab will leak information to find out those she cannot trust and wait for them to prove her right, she did this with Nameless, perhaps she did the same with Maeve and the back door to Demonreach, indeed the attack may have been an attempt to verify the information by Maeves allies as much as release Lea. It was shut to her after this, suggesting Mab’s game.
People might want Demonreach to back onto Tartarus, bur there is no evidence for this, but there is circumstantial evidence for Mab’s Ice Garden, by those who have used the route to get there.
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So what hordes of world threating monsters and demons are imprisoned in Mab's garden? The only actual time it appears in the books, it's being used to hold Lea to cure her. We know that she punishes people there but it's mostly her vassals that displease her(most recently Nameless, Laplander and Harry in The Law). I don't think anything she has would be more than a Nagloshi. Demonreach holds fallen Gods. It's Never Never analog is someplace with equivalent or greater prisoners in equa numbers. That doesn't have to be Tartarus but it should be in that league and Mab's place just isn't.
And once again this theory hangs on that direct Way from Arctic Tor that's never been even inferred by the books. Yes, Peabody met someone in Chicago, a known nexus of Ways, but where is it stated that it was Maeve and that they came from Arctis Tor? If an already Nemfected Maeve had known a Way to the island, she could have loosed the sleepers before Harry ever became Warden or Winter Knight. Rashiid says he knows a Way but we have no way to know where he started from. A spot that approaches the Outer Gates would seem to be a better choice.
Conspiracy Theorist:
And once again I point to circumstantial evidence over no evidence.
The point is ‘PRISON’ and ‘prison’ on the logic being put forward the vault in the bank has to have riches equivalent to that of Hades VAULT, it clearly doesn’t, similar function but different degree are enough to forge the link. Mab’s Ice Garden merely needs to serve the same function as Demonreach it doesn’t have to function to the same degree.
Indeed given the links between Mab and Merlin shown in Peace Talks it may likely have been designed that way, a secure back door to the NeverNever guarded by Mab. Again there are no known links to Merlin and Hades, but there are between the Merlin and Mab.
morriswalters:
The island is not the prison. The prison is under the island.
--- Quote ---Mab made a low, disgusted sound and turned to face me. “I have heeded your summons; yet I would not enter this domain unless specifically bidden. Have I your permission to do so?” “Yes,” I said. “Yes, you do.” Mab nodded her head slightly, and descended to the ground.
Butcher, Jim. Cold Days (The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 501). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Doesn't seem like someone who has the keys to the kingdom.
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