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Proven Guilty and my personal canon.

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 31, 2022, 02:47:05 AM ---The brownies were Summer - a boon from Lily for saving her at the end of Summer Knight.

Lea and Mab are equally free to walk right into his home as benevolent visitors too, though.

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  When you think about it, Mab and Lea cannot freely cross Harry's threshold, or at least I do
not remember them doing so.  The Brownies have permission as his cleaning service, but it is unlikely that Harry would have allowed them into his lab. Since he has never had an on page conversation with them we do not know their level of understanding as we do Toot.  So the one guy that can go anywhere he wants I think is Uriel.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 31, 2022, 05:08:20 AM ---  When you think about it, Mab and Lea cannot freely cross Harry's threshold, or at least I do
not remember them doing so.  The Brownies have permission as his cleaning service, but it is unlikely that Harry would have allowed them into his lab. Since he has never had an on page conversation with them we do not know their level of understanding as we do Toot.  So the one guy that can go anywhere he wants I think is Uriel.

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Ah, but does going via a Way count as a threshold? Did Harry, or more likely it would have to be Michael, invite Mab that Christmas Eve? That's a MUCH stronger threshold, or did she just have to leave most of her power outside. Harry's crossed a threshold for the Ordo Lebes (sp) uninvited to show he had no eveil intentions - he basically disarmed himself.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 30, 2022, 06:21:12 PM ---

Bob says something strange.


--- Quote ---It didn’t fix itself,” Bob said. “When I looked at it a few nights ago, the flawed section was in plain sight, even if I didn’t recognize it at the time. When I looked again tonight, it was different. Someone changed it.”

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If he recognized it was wrong after the fact why didn't he recognize it before?

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Maybe he noticed the change as DIFFERENT, instead of WRONG, at first. It was only until he did some research he found the newer configuration was correct, and the older one wrong.

As Mira pointed out - cities change. As an example - suppose I made Little New York.  I made it in 1960. It could have been right at the time. 1980 rolls around - the Trade Towers have been built - and Greenwich Street was CUT OFF at the southern edge of the Trade Center complex, to resume again NORTH of the complex. In the prior model, it was a continuous run. Mab fixes it. My Bob notices a CHANGE and asks me for some data. I give him a Hagstrom Atlas (no electronics!) with a city street map - and he sees the new construction changed the map grid. My 1960 model was wrong in 1980.

(and just to screw with the maps again, they changed the map grid during reconstruction of the area, so 1960 .NE. 1980 .NE. 2022  )

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 31, 2022, 05:08:20 AM ---When you think about it, Mab and Lea cannot freely cross Harry's threshold, or at least I do not remember them doing so.

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They can go anywhere they want so long as their intentions are benevolent to the homeowner. The scene with Cat Sith appearing in Thomas' apartment without his permission in CD explains those rules.

morriswalters:
All cities change on a daily basis, so no map can or does try to keep up.  Entropy happens.  LC would be useless if it was that important.  Butcher made a narrative decision to have the device be broken. It's when he makes the reveal that is most important IMHO.  The story is over and he's recapping and explaining as part of the denouement. Why tell us then, when it no longer makes any difference?

And can someone explain to me Lasciels's purpose in the plot?  She doesn't do anything useful, at least on the surface. Does Butcher think we forgot about her?

She jump scares Harry in the car just before he is hit.
She throws a hissy fit when he uses LC.
She talks to him in the church.

Use the threshold the way Butcher does.  He uses it to nerf magic. If he wants a character in then the threshold lets them in. If he wants them out then they are out. And if the story demands it there is a workaround.

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