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What the heck was Justin *UP* to??!?
Mira:
--- Quote ---Lea and Mab certainly were interested in Molly, but it’s Molly who initiated the forbidden mind magic, which was immediately picked up by the Gatekeeper who we subsequently learn is actually an ally of Mab’s. The Gatekeeper informed Mab before Harry that she had the potential to be a back-up Winter Lady Candidate if she fell directly in Harry’s orbit, and Mab engineered much of the rest. In parallel to this was the attack on Arctis Tor which seems to have been undertaken to take advantage of the maneuvering between Mab and Titania to bring Molly to Arctis Tor, Mab needed plausible deniability so she and the majority of her forces were committed elsewhere so the Phobophages could go “on a frolic of their own”. Nameless and his allies are suspected of the attack, whether a secondary purpose was to try and flush him to try and rescue Lea/Nemesis is a point of debate. Mab needed plausible deniability because Molly was a potential wizard and therefore within the provenance of the White Council. Mab without this plausible deniability may have been in breach of her own accords. This is reasoning Nameless would understand and seek to exploit, and Mab would know this bait would work.
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One problem with this theory, while it sounds good, Denarians were part of the attack on Arctus Tor.
Mab told Harry in the chapel in Small favor that she now knew who attacked Arctus Tor and that she and Uriel had a common enemy, i.e. the Denarians.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 20, 2022, 08:33:03 PM ---I have one other theory: I think that Molly was set up by Mab & Lea.
Michael -- as wielder of Amoracchius -- was very much "on their radar." Doubly-so as a close friend & ally of Dresden.
That puts Molly on their radar, too. And when she started showing talent, I think they moved in and began working on her.
Herewith, my WAG (in the form of questions) -- what if Lea began interacting with proto-wizard Molly, struggling-to-learn Molly, wanting-power (for all the "right" reasons, but...) Molly? What if Lea directed Molly away from the safer and more-benign channels? What if Lea set mind-magic and other Lawbreaking in Molly's path -- intentionally?
What if Molly turning to Black Magic was largely the work of the Leanansidhe???
Murderously-angry Harry, much?
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Molly was definitely on Mab's radar. Mab says as much at the end of CD but hints that her purpose originally wasn't to be a Fae queen but something else. (My personal WAG was a bride for a Dragon, next up Hope/Maggie Jr) But she was also Mab's backup for Sarissa once that became forced.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 20, 2022, 11:35:59 PM ---I doubt that nameless was a twinkle in Butcher's eye when PG was written. I don't think he was in the same universe even. I might buy stock in this if somebody can give a reason why Madrigal was there.
The timing is close but Lea is pretty much on ice when Molly comes into her magic. Certainly she's nemfected. So cooperation with Mab would seem to be a non starter.
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Cowl however had been around since the start of the series which technically wasn’t in the same universe as Harry’s decision in Grave Peril led to the creation of a new universe.
There were already at this point divisions within the White Court, Madrigal hunting on Lara’s territory was a by product of this. Cowl was definitely shown to be behind the Discord (almost as if he were a Demi-god of it) in White Night. Darby Crane was an ideal GoH for Splattercon, but normally he wouldn’t have accepted the invitation, his attendance is a by product of another Cowl scheme to turn the White Court against the White Council.
My theory has Nameless as the inside man tipping his allies including a rogue Denarian that Arctis Tor is seriously undermanned as part of a plan by Mab to plausibly deny the abduction of a mortal wizard, the plan actually mostly to flush out her enemies inside and outside Winter. If this is indeed the Black Council/The Circle then she and Uriel definitely share an enemy, and were working together on the Arctis Tor ploy using Molly and Lea as bait, without eithers consent.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on August 21, 2022, 12:29:24 AM ---Molly was definitely on Mab's radar. Mab says as much at the end of CD but hints that her purpose originally wasn't to be a Fae queen but something else. (My personal WAG was a bride for a Dragon, next up Hope/Maggie Jr) But she was also Mab's backup for Sarissa once that became forced.
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What Mab said was she felt that Molly was more suited for Summer Lady, but it didn't work out that way.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Mab wanted her own daughter as Winter Lady, but it worked out better, the Winter Knight killed Titania’s daughter, Mab’s daughter replaced her. This and both being annoyed at Harry led to something of a rapprochement.
As the Good People shows Molly isn’t Mab’s idea of a Winter Lady, but Molly is Molly’s idea of one, and the Mantle and the Redcap agree with Molly.
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