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Winter Lady Restrictions
ElusivePan:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 10, 2022, 09:48:52 PM ---I'm pretty sure Nemfection freed Maeve from all those restrictions, though... She could lie overtly, she could have intercourse with a man, etc.
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If Nemesis could subvert her nature to that extent, then it would've been able to destroy the mantle, according to Mab's warning.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The obligation against lying is Winter Law not particular to the Mantle, so Nemesis suborned Winter Law, breaking the restrictions of the Mantle would have meant Maeve becoming a undifferentiated lump of protoplasm. The same happened with the Mantleless Lea.
This fits in with my theory that Nameless became subject to Winter Law solely in order to destroy it, (he is a Demi-god of Discord, and a crooked Lawyer) his aiding Nemesis just one of the aspects of his attack. Without Winter Law then Winter would lose its coordination, massively undermining the defence of the Gates. Oh and Nameless is Cowl of course.
morriswalters:
Breaking the Mantle would have killed Maeve since Maeve was hundreds of years old. Mab kept Sarissa alive as part of a bargain(and because she wanted a spare). But certainly Nemesis would not have allowed Maeve to destroy the Mantle as long as he/she thought Maeve might become Mab.
g33k:
--- Quote from: ElusivePan on August 11, 2022, 12:00:42 PM --- ... If Nemesis could subvert her nature to that extent, then it would've been able to destroy the mantle, according to Mab's warning.
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--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 11, 2022, 12:20:38 PM --- ... breaking the restrictions of the Mantle would have meant Maeve becoming a undifferentiated lump of protoplasm...
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--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 11, 2022, 05:34:54 PM ---Breaking the Mantle would have killed Maeve since Maeve was hundreds of years old...
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Hmm.
I've obviously missed something in the text.
Help a brother out? Can anyone cite or quote for me?
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---“I . . . have a form of congenital dementia,” she said. “I watched what it did to my older sister and . . .” She shuddered. “Doctors can’t help me. Mab can.
Butcher, Jim. Cold Days (The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 71). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Sarissa could have been lying, but then again Maeve was crazy as hell. The citation on the composer is in the WOJ database on Paranet.com.
--- Quote ---Maeve and Sarissa were twin sisters, from Mab. Their father was an Austrian composer and musician who died young.
2015 DragonCon
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--- Quote ---How often do the Ladies’, Queens’ and Mothers’ mantles change?
Uh, the Ladies, Queens and Mothers, their mantles change very, very, very rarely in general. I mean, Mab’s been there for better than 1,000 years. And Maeve’s been there….there was a Winter Lady before Maeve, uh, in Mab’s time. And she didn’t fare so well the last time a Starborn was running around.
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So given this Starborn business figure Maeve and Sarissa to be at least 600 years old.
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