The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Mab is cleaning up the White Court
morriswalters:
Maybe, but he is portrayed as a drunk and a party guy. Other then the fact that he was good looking, rich and and had hot women, he seemed to be a lot like me. ;)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 11, 2022, 09:22:18 PM --- No, no, I am not arguing it is a bad idea! I LIKE the idea. I just think if it was implemented we would have had word leak thru Lara or Thomas by now. Earlier in the series this would have fit great.
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I think there are a *LOT* of "little details" of this sort, that Jim has in his mind as he writes, that don't get revealed in a "timely" way.
He loves to leave "easter eggs" strewn around. Some are more consequential than others.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 11, 2022, 09:22:18 PM --- I didn't say the Whamps developed it. They could have bought the tech. I doubt it is WC work - selling defenses against their own attack? Not smart. Svaltalfs? Could be. I think they are the best bet here
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I don't think they "bought the tech" -- they bought the item: 1 set of armbands, magical-warding.
The "tech" is useless to them, because very few (if any!) Whamp magicians are strong enough to enchant such magic items.
I doubt the White Council would have "officially" transacted with the Whamps to provide such an item. But one wizard selling "under the table"? Very possible IMO. Stolen from a WC wizard? Another good possibility. Commanded from a WC wizard whose will was Whamp-subverted? Another possibility. LOTS of ways for it to be "White Council work."
But although it "could have been" White Council, I think it was Dark Elves:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 11, 2022, 10:39:18 PM --- Swartalves would be a good bet ...
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--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 12, 2022, 09:12:00 PM --- Well, i was thinking they are logical because Harry could walk around their compound/Molly's apartment without stuff blowing up from his Murphyonic field, so they likely know some magic negating/antimagic hardening tricks.
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There's Molly's apartment, yes... but also:
The Raith Deeps! It had that cheesyclassy mood-lighting going on. Survived the (repeated?) Entropy-Rituals, survived Harry's fight with Papa Raith, and even IIRC survived Harry&Carlos' duel with the Whamps. High emotions, lots of un-warded magic being flung about... should have blown all lighting. I'm pretty sure the Raith Deeps' lighting was Svartalven work. And, that being the case, the warding arm-bands seem likely Svartalven, too.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: g33k on August 14, 2022, 06:09:12 PM ---I don't think they "bought the tech" -- they bought the item: 1 set of armbands, magical-warding.
The "tech" is useless to them, because very few (if any!) Whamp magicians are strong enough to enchant such magic items.
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OK, that is more where i was going, they bough the item. Like when a company says they are investing in new technology for their assembly line, they are not buying the engineering blueprints and chip specs, they are getting stuff installed.
--- Quote ---I doubt the White Council would have "officially" transacted with the Whamps to provide such an item. But one wizard selling "under the table"? Very possible IMO. Stolen from a WC wizard? Another good possibility. Commanded from a WC wizard whose will was Whamp-subverted? Another possibility. LOTS of ways for it to be "White Council work."
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Selling? No way. The wizard weakens himself. Whamp subverted? seems unlikely. He'd have to have it already. Stolen? I gotta think stuff like that is held VERY securely, but this one could be. But I am thinking non-Council.
--- Quote ---There's Molly's apartment, yes... but also:
The Raith Deeps! It had that cheesyclassy mood-lighting going on. Survived the (repeated?) Entropy-Rituals, survived Harry's fight with Papa Raith, and even IIRC survived Harry&Carlos' duel with the Whamps. High emotions, lots of un-warded magic being flung about... should have blown all lighting. I'm pretty sure the Raith Deeps' lighting was Svartalven work. And, that being the case, the warding arm-bands seem likely Svartalven, too.
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I think the Deeps were likely simple mortal work. The Whamps are not envisioning magical duels happening much. Harry is not blowing up streetlamps and making cars freeze in place every time he walks near one. Cheesy lighting? Mortals can't do that? Ever hear of Las Vegas?
Rituals cast by non-wizards may not have the short-out-the-electronics aura that wizards do. Molly has a cell phone, doesn't she? Up to her ear! So Mantles don't blow things. And a cell phone has far more elaborate circuitry than wiring. Mac has fans and lights in the pub, and he caters to multiple wizards, not Harry level, usually, but there for HOURS every day. Where Harry LIVED, even continual low level emissions can toast stuff. But he didn't blow up his office. Or the others in the building.
Svaltalf work is gonna be high - and the bill may not be in dollars. Heck, the Whamps can seduce a couple of electricians or stagehands to rig this all up simple.
vincentric:
The Murphyonic Fiels is a plot device used make the lives of Mortal wizards(including and especially Harry) have more difficult lives. Mainly it restricts their use of tech and gives their enemies an advantage.
Because they aren't "mortal practitioners" Molly can a use cell phone where she couldn't before becoming the Lady, Nic and his cronies can use electronic communication, the Redcap could chase down the Water Beetle on a jet-ski and Vadderung can run a multinational security corporation. Think of how Harry's life as WK would be improved with a company car outfitted as well as the presidential limo. Every wizard should have the Swartalves on speed dial for an air-conditioned and lighted home remodel.
Overanalyzing any book or movie involving magic or supertech will reveal inconsistencies. Just suspend your belief for the world background. Most authors and screenwriters don't think like pro gamers when they set up their worlds.
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