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In defense of the WC

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Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 11, 2022, 12:35:10 PM ---It’s the company car all over again, attack Harry’s home Mab will ignore, but an attack on a Winter Garrison she will not. Whoever (Merlin) tried to bomb the Castle will have to answer to her at some point and that gives Harry as Winter Knight the capacity to challenge to a duel whoever organised it (Merlin) with the full power of Winter behind him. As a Vassal of Winter on Winter Business Harry would be guaranteed unmolested access to the White Council and specifically the Merlin to issue the challenge. It’s the only way he could get one on one with the Merlin and we know from the Gatekeeper this is going to happen in the future.

If Harry has any sense he would ask Eldest Gruff to be his second.

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An attack on a Winter Embassy is an attack on Mab and will not be tolerated.

Eldest gruff is Summer. Titania likely blocks it. Scary Sidhe Lady is Winter. Mab is likely fine with Lea going, and she outclasses anything the WC can muster, even Eb.

Two spit-in-the-face seconds choices:

1) If the duel is considered Winter-WC : Former WC apprentice Molly

2) If the duel is considered personal: Grandpa Eb. Also takes away Langtry's best battle mage.

The one that spooks everyone on both sides? Rashid.

(Rashid likely turns it down. Uriel turns it down, but even if he didn't, they would know there would be no treachery. Play by the rules and you're safe. Vadderung would turn it down, then show up with a horn of mead and bowl of popcorn to watch. Possibly with the Erlking and Gruff. )   

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 11, 2022, 08:15:33 PM ---And yet he fought Eb to a draw in Battle Ground who is supposed to be the best Battle Wizard. Langtry is considered to be the best defensive wizard, but you don’t win a duel on defence. For example Langtry erects a shield no attack can get through, Harry could use soul Fire to enhance that shield so that Oxygen doesn’t get through and then wait for Langtry to pass out.

Langtry at this point has to consider Harry a greater political threat than Eb, he isn’t an asset, and he is the more immediate threat.

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To be fair, I think Eb was holding something back. He wanted to win without hurting Harry badly or killing him. Langtry will not pass on that so readily.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 11, 2022, 06:49:18 AM ---
But even if she does have to deal more with Carlos... remember, she'll be teaching now.  Just like Harry did, Elaine will find her powers developing more quickly & more deeply.  She'll be getting more and more able to deceive Carlos.

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Elaine may not gain as much as Harry did in reviewing her lessons. She may have learned the little things the FIRST time, while Harry was making things work by throwing power at it until it happened.  She developed skill, while he compensated with raw power.

Example - 2 kids as golfers. Boy is hitting his drives with his arms and upper body, girl is using her hips and legs, turning the torso. Boy outhits girl, but only by a little.  A few years later, they both go to a golf school to have their skills examined and deconstructed. Girl is fine tuned, gets a little more distance, but is otherwise similar to before. Boy is now getting HIS hip turn into it, and his legs, and gains 30 yards to his drive. Re-examining her game had minor points to fix, but he had missed large things where he replaced skill with raw power. He now develops skill, and the gap between the two widens.

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 11, 2022, 09:35:59 PM ---To be fair, I think Eb was holding something back. He wanted to win without hurting Harry badly or killing him. Langtry will not pass on that so readily.

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But Harry goaded him into doing exactly that.

forumghost:
I mean be real here people, harry didn't beat eb -not really- he tricked him into fighting a hologram made by the winter lady while he got out of dodge.

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