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RobReece:
I was re-reading BG and remembered a thought I'd had he first time regarding a conversation between Listen and Ethniu... When Harry was listening with Grimalkin's senses.  Corb had already been dismissed from the conversation when the following conversation took place...
(click to show/hide)“He will kill you in your sleep one night,” Ethniu predicted.
“I’ll be waiting for him,” Listen replied.
“For a mortal, you are uncommonly capable—and insouciant,” Ethniu said. “If I did not need you for later, I might kill you myself.”
“But you do need me,” Listen said calmly. “And you haven’t got anyone else as good as me.”
“I find it pleasant to have the service of someone who can think,” the Titan replied. “Yet you are mortal. One is much like another.”
“How many starborn are there wandering about, this close to the endga—” Listen’s voice broke off abruptly. “Sergeant, I want a light on that mound of rubble, right now.”

Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (pp. 241-242). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition. I don't recall seeing discussions on this, but did Listen just claim to be a starborn?

Mira:


Yup, so apparently there is one under every rock, we now know of at least three..

RobReece:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 05, 2022, 09:28:33 PM ---
Yup, so apparently there is one under every rock, we now know of at least three..

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Harry
Drakul
Listen
Elaine (possible starborn?)

and Harry apparently the most clueless of them all...

The Mothers know their significance, so do the Queens, I wonder if the Lady's know and if so, could Molly instruct Harry on the subject?

or will LTW's promise of One Year's time extend just beyond the end of "Twelve Months" and leave us still waiting until after Harry returns from the Mirror Dimension before us readers get to hear about it.
 
So yes I'm proposing that Harry slips into the Mirror dimension prior to consummating his marriage to Lara... Maybe Eb does "what he thinks is best" for Harry and shifts him over to keep him from Lara

g33k:

--- Quote from: RobReece on August 05, 2022, 10:08:57 PM ---Harry
Drakul
Listen
Elaine (possible starborn?)
--- End quote ---

I've seen people suggesting Rashid (Gatekeeper) as possibly (even probably) Starborn, too.


--- Quote from: RobReece on August 05, 2022, 10:08:57 PM --- ...  So yes I'm proposing that Harry slips into the Mirror dimension prior to consummating his marriage to Lara... Maybe Eb does "what he thinks is best" for Harry and shifts him over to keep him from Lara
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I think Mirror!Harry grabs Harry!Prime.

IIRC, Mirror!Harry has been pulling this trick for a while:  he throws a mirror-version of himself to the wolves, gets the pressure off his *own* back.  I'm unclear on how clearly this is based upon WoJ, vs what fans have assembled from various hints/teasers.

What has suddenly occurred to me:  it happens *at* the wedding.  Having twisted & turned and tried everything he can to escape the marriage, he's out of options.  He's putting on final touches, straightening his bowtie... then Mirror!Harry reaches out of the image, and grabs him.

Literally leaving Lara a jilted bride at the altar.  She didn't want the marriage either, but the public humiliation is too huge a hit to her reputation, so she HAS to go medieval on Harry (when he finally comes back).

Conspiracy Theorist:
The intimation is that Harry and Listen are Starborn from this Cycle, Drakul from an earlier cycle. On that basis for all we know the English Prisoner is a Starborn from an earlier cycle, stashed in Demonreach as a failsafe against there NOT being a suitable Starborn from this cycle, a backup to Harry.

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