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Non- obvious things you want to see explained
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on July 21, 2022, 11:54:21 PM ---This subject is for any odd or unusual situation or mystery you want to know more about or have explained. Even if the mystery is something that Jim might never take the time to fully answer.
I was looking at the thread about the possible origins of the Red and White Courts of Vampires, and I started wondering about something Nicodemus said about the Red Court back in Small Favor. Nic offered to help Harry wipe out the Red Court. Specifically, Nic said of the Red Court, "They're large, well organized, dangerous to my plans, a plague upon mankind, and aesthetically repugnant. They're parasites who are inconvenient in the short term, dangerous in the middle distance, and fatal to any long-range plan. They need to be destroyed at some point, in any case."
Of course, there is no way to know why the Red Court were a threat to Nics plans until we find out exactly what those plans actually involve. So far, I've haven't seen anyone make any detailed speculation on what Nic's long-term plan is. I think there has been some talk about Nic; and by extension Anduriel, wanting to defeat the Outsiders, but do so in a way that probably wipes out most of humanity. I could see the Red Court; if they were still around, not being very happy to see most of their food source disappear, but if Nic's plan involves the use of the Holly Grail or other items that were in Hades vault, I don't understand how the Red Court could get in Nic's way.
This isn't an huge issue or mystery like who fixed Little Chicago or who was responsible for Malcolm Dresden's death, but I don't want to see it get glossed over when Nic's plan or plans come into full view.
What odd or minor issue or mystery do you want to see explained?
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In broad terms you know the outlines. Nic wants to blow the world to flinders to create a new world order. Classic trope. The Reds on the other hand wish to maintain the status quo ante and maintain the herd. Lara has similar ambitions, albeit a little less murderous. And she's operating on two levels, both as a facilitator of the Oblivion War and as a White Vampire. In my imagination, on good days, I see the Whites as a cabal within a cabal. A creation designed to see the Oblivion War to its finale. While maintaining the facade of the murderous Vampire.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Yes Nick is a Doctor Evil type villain. Scheme, scheme, scheme.
The Ramps were moving into North America, where the Whamps were already well established. Blamps seem to be the Eurotrash of the Vampire World and the Jamps have cornered Asia. No one seems willing to take them on. It may have been a battle for survival for the Whamps, with great Blamps and Ramps putting the squeeze on them.
There is no indication that Lord Raith was part of the Oblivion War, quite the contrary I think, it may have been Lara seeking to undercut her fathers protector which led her into it.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 22, 2022, 02:35:54 PM ---The White Court knew but this wasn’t common knowledge even in the White Council, Wizards and their secrets, look at Eb’s abject horror when he realised Maggie was staying with Harry.
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Ariana was at the dinner with Eb and Maggie when they showed too much of their cards by "arguing like family". Changes was her plan; she was the only one who needed to know the connection.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on July 21, 2022, 11:54:21 PM ---I think there has been some talk about Nic; and by extension Anduriel, wanting to defeat the Outsiders, but do so in a way that probably wipes out most of humanity. I could see the Red Court; if they were still around, not being very happy to see most of their food source disappear, but if Nic's plan involves the use of the Holly Grail or other items that were in Hades vault, I don't understand how the Red Court could get in Nic's way.
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Perhaps something as simple as that their large, organized and powerful nation was a junior ally / effective proxy of the Outsiders?
Probably not a coincidence that as the Fomor stepped up into their niche, they were also trying to interfere in Nic's plan to go after the armory.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 25, 2022, 06:17:13 PM ---Perhaps something as simple as that their large, organized and powerful nation was a junior ally / effective proxy of the Outsiders?
Probably not a coincidence that as the Fomor stepped up into their niche, they were also trying to interfere in Nic's plan to go after the armory.
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Well, it is hinted, I think as early as Dead Beat, when Harry says to Morgan how the Red Court is merely a "cat's paw" of a bigger power.. Not only that, but apparently easily replaced, in step the Fomor. Everyone one is scared of the Fomor, and they seem to be the big unstoppable bad... But when we do have the show down, take away their Titian dolly, and while it is messy they are taken down in pretty short order.
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