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Lara Raith marriage consummation
Fcrate:
Harry's instructions to Molly at the end of proven guilty were more specific to her than a general rule. He wasn't trying to keep her a virgin, he just wanted to stop her from having an orgasm (he forbade her to masturbate). I think he believed her volatile emotions would combine with her sensitivite powers to turn her into a warlock.
I believe the "virginity" clause of the Lady mantle wasn't something that was originally intended by Butcher in Summer Knight, thus Lily. He added it later to serve something in the plot. Maybe to keep Molly as a forbidden match for Harry.
This happens sometimes. I don't believe for a second that Butcher knows EXACTLY how everything is going to happen in his series, just the general outline. Everything else gets created along the way, with plot points moving him in different directions.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 24, 2022, 03:58:58 PM ---Yes, in some circles that is it exactly, lesbians are considered virgins..
--- End quote ---
reminded me of a passage in a humorous fantasy, The Inadequate Adept by Simon Hawke. An elf has just been saved by a dragon, swooping down, breathing fire at the ugly unicorns who do not like virgins chasing her. She is brought up to the castle turret before the wizard who ordered the rescue, with the prince standing by
W: "Why were the unicorns chasing you?"
B: "Obviously, she's a virgin."
E: "I am NOT a virgin!"
B: "The unicorns knew better. They would have smelled a man on you"
E: "I have never had a man on me, thank you very much!"
B: "Then what did you mean when you said you weren't a .....""Oh, I see"
oops... edit - "B:" was Prince Brian, cursed to be - no kidding, a werechamberpot. He was only human at full moon until the curse was lifted
Mira:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on July 25, 2022, 02:51:32 AM ---reminded me of a passage in a humorous fantasy, The Inadequate Adept by Simon Hawke. An elf has just been saved by a dragon, swooping down, breathing fire at the ugly unicorns who do not like virgins chasing her. She is brought up to the castle turret before the wizard who ordered the rescue, with the prince standing by
W: "Why were the unicorns chasing you?"
B: "Obviously, she's a virgin."
E: "I am NOT a virgin!"
B: "The unicorns knew better. They would have smelled a man on you"
E: "I have never had a man on me, thank you very much!"
B: "Then what did you mean when you said you weren't a .....""Oh, I see"
--- End quote ---
Which proves the point that "virginity" isn't an easy thing to define.. How it is defined varies a lot depending on culture and religion. I think a better avenue to pursue for the Winter Lady isn't her status as or not as a virgin, but that once she assumes the mantle it appears that she must be celibate.. It is a rule that the mantle apparently strictly enforces as both Molly and Carlos found out. I believe it also was the source of Maeve's frustrations so much so, that even if she was never infected would eventually have led to madness. Actually it makes sense in a way, a celibate Lady cannot take lovers nor give birth, either of which could possibly present a threat to the Queen.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Molly’s previous unrequited love for Harry made her an excellent candidate, she was prepared to wait for Harry. When she becomes Queen the wait is over.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 20, 2022, 01:12:28 PM ---House Raith is led by female Whamps putting it at a disadvantage against the other houses, and leaving is vulnerable to take over by secondary lines like the cousins.
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I'm not convinced Whamps subscribe to human notions of sexism, that having female leadership would be a disadvantage. The Malvora's were led by a woman until the coup attempt, and she was considered just as much of a threat to overthrow House Raith if Lord Raith's weakness became public as the Skavis kird was. And the coup attempt killed not just the pair of them, but most of the second tier around them.
Lara is probably in more danger from other Raiths when the charade of her father being functional eventually fails than Raith overall is from any of the other houses. She's probably planning as much for that contingency as for external events in seeking the arranged marriage, whether it produces a child or not.
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