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Lara Raith marriage consummation

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Basil:
I'm not convinced that White Court females can reproduce.  We have only one very ambiguous example of Vittorio and Cheserina Malvora.  Cheserina is described as an Aunt and Mother in just a hand full of pages.

We know that Madrigal and Madeline are the children of Lord Raith's brother, who had a very unfortunate parachute-less sky diving accident. 

I think we know "the Skavis" was the son of Lord Skavis.

We know that the White Court girl in the Big Foot novellas was the daughter of that minor White Court Lord. 

Again, we have many, many examples of children of male White Court Vampires, and only very questionable example of a White Court Mother. 

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: Mira on July 19, 2022, 03:13:29 PM ---I really don't care about that, all I'm saying is Harry as daddy really hasn't added that much to the story.  There are plenty of other threads that have been left dangling, we don't need any new ones.

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Just saying that Harry could get Lara to believe that Mab might have a claim on the child.

Fcrate:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 19, 2022, 06:00:45 PM ---Just saying that Harry could get Lara to believe that Mab might have a claim on the child.

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Lara is too smart to fall for that. If anything, Mab would have an obligation towards the child's protection and upbringing. At least in abscence of his parents.

--- Quote from: Mira on July 19, 2022, 10:06:56 AM ---Yes, that is often the reason, but in this case I hope not, or rather Harry already has more children than he can handle.. Even if Lara insisted which I'm sure she would a child would be hers to do with what she will..

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--- Quote from: Mira on July 19, 2022, 03:13:29 PM ---I really don't care about that, all I'm saying is Harry as daddy really hasn't added that much to the story.  There are plenty of other threads that have been left dangling, we don't need any new ones.

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I agree completely. This will be a complication that will take quite a few chapters out of every future book for years. That doesn't mean that I don't want to see the marriage go through, because I do. I think they're pretty well matched.

Eguzky:

--- Quote from: Basil on July 19, 2022, 04:41:22 PM ---I'm not convinced that White Court females can reproduce.  We have only one very ambiguous example of Vittorio and Cheserina Malvora.  Cheserina is described as an Aunt and Mother in just a hand full of pages.

We know that Madrigal and Madeline are the children of Lord Raith's brother, who had a very unfortunate parachute-less sky diving accident. 

I think we know "the Skavis" was the son of Lord Skavis.

We know that the White Court girl in the Big Foot novellas was the daughter of that minor White Court Lord. 

Again, we have many, many examples of children of male White Court Vampires, and only very questionable example of a White Court Mother.

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It's mentioned that the White Court are 'all but sterile'. Meaning they CAN have children, but it's very, very, VERY unlikely.

Though this brings up two questions:
1. Is it more likely between 2 White Court? After all; Daddy Raith has had many children.

2. Justine's baby:
It will feed on her Nemesis-possessed body. Which COULD kill her. I wonder if that will lead to Nemesis being weakened in Justine? Or maybe the babay will fed on Nemesis itself?
After all; nothing so far hints that Nemesis gives it's puppets any sort of power...Maybe Thomas Jr. is setting up to be a (to use the trope name) Chekov's Gun?

Ed0517:
I'd think White to White conception is even harder. Let us assume the sterility problem is either number of gametes (sperm, egg) produced or their viability. Humans generally drop one or two eggs. If Lara does not drop one, no matter how fertile her partner is, she does not get pregnant.  Males may eject 50,100 MILLION sperm. If Whamps are putting out 10 K - that will cause infertility. Just ONE sperm will do it. Guess they strike out a lot though. 

Let us assume the problem exists for both sexes - Thomas seemed surprised he got Justine pregnant (if HE did.. Nemesis, you know), so assume at least low male count. So if Lara is NEARLY barren, she will want to maximize the sperm available when she DOES drop an egg - get a human (assume wizards count here). Thomas would want a woman he can assume DOES drop an egg - get a human. If wizards are the same as human, a wizard might be ideal - with their longer lifespans, they likely have a longer period of fertility than vanilla humans. Don't have so swap out partners as much . (you CAN, but you do not HAVE to)

(Oh, and for the ultra woke, the above also explains why when birth control was developed they went after the one egg, rather than having to kill every sperm. Just an easier target. Add on, killing testosterone tends to kill desire... he just don't WANNA. Kinda like Vonnegut's Ethical Birth Control. If it's numb, no fun.)

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