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Getting to the Island
Mira:
--- Quote ---So we have one instance of dramatic reveal for the purpose of exposition(Rashiid) and another of the Bad Guys using secret knowledge(Peabody+) and no other known instances.
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I don't know if it is so much secret ways, but the ways that exist are very dangerous. If Rashid knows a way through the Nevernever, why didn't he share that with his fellow Senior Council members? Did Peabody use the same way as Rashid? I'd say that perhaps the Senior Council knows of the way also but didn't want to take the risk.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 14, 2022, 01:32:41 PM ---I don't know if it is so much secret ways, but the ways that exist are very dangerous. If Rashid knows a way through the Nevernever, why didn't he share that with his fellow Senior Council members? Did Peabody use the same way as Rashid? I'd say that perhaps the Senior Council knows of the way also but didn't want to take the risk.
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Rashid, quite reasonably does not trust his fellow Senior Council Members, and it might not be his secret to reveal. If the Way is controlled by Mab as I speculate, she has likely placed a geas on Rashid (with his consent) not to reveal this to other than a new Warden. Peabody’s ink wouldn’t have worked on that, and if she did the same to the Warden before Harry, who I posit was Fortier, then it wouldn’t work on him either, at least in this regard, forcing his murder once the link is confirmed, Maeve is nemfected and access is granted. One could guess that Arctis Tor backs onto Demonreach, but one would need a scouting party to confirm this. It would be embarrassing if instead it came out at somewhere like Pontiac in Chicago instead.
As pointed out, Mab has no compunction about redecorating mortals minds, and she has the power to back it up. She always has her colour charts to hand when she meets with Harry.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 14, 2022, 01:32:41 PM ---I don't know if it is so much secret ways, but the ways that exist are very dangerous. If Rashid knows a way through the Nevernever, why didn't he share that with his fellow Senior Council members? Did Peabody use the same way as Rashid? I'd say that perhaps the Senior Council knows of the way also but didn't want to take the risk.
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The wizards only trust each other so much. I don't think Rashid uses the one ON the island, He seems to be very reluctant to upset Alfred (good move, Rashid!). Did Harry rebuild the Whassup Dock right over the old one? Could someone have BUILT a Way just above the old dock, possibly to get to the island "politely" - maybe talking as they get off the dock to say hi or ask permission?
Peabody may be using an unknown Way, or it might be a hazardous path, but his companion is that kinda powerful? (If Eb won't take it, I doubt Cowl would. But a Walker could)
Now a question - I assume Alfred could tell Harry WHERE the other Way is - and if there are any others. Would he have any perception of where they are linked TO in Never Never? Might tell us something about the opponent.
morriswalters:
First the island and the prison aren't the same thing. You go through a door to get into the prison from the island. From the text you can make some assumptions.
Mab has a high degree of trust from Alfred or Alfred is powerful enough to not fear Mab being inside the gates. The second is supported by Mab not touching the island until invited by Harry.
--- Quote ---Mab made a low, disgusted sound and turned to face me. “I have heeded your summons; yet I would not enter this domain unless specifically bidden. Have I your permission to do so?” “Yes,” I said. “Yes, you do.”
Butcher, Jim. Cold Days (The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 501). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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The inmates do not get keys to the asylum. Neither Maeve or Lily understood the hazard that they were in in Cold Days.
--- Quote ---Mab nodded her head slightly, and descended to the ground. From me, she turned to Demonreach. “I thank you for your patience and your assistance in this matter. You could have reacted differently but chose not to. I am aware of the decision. It will not be forgotten.”
Butcher, Jim. Cold Days (The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 501). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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By implication they were a moment away from a padded cell in the prison, which would cause all kinds of problems of balance in the Courts. Following that reasoning, giving Mab access, but with her afraid to use it, makes the idea of a Portal in the garden dubious. This is reinforced considering the portal opening would open both ways. Mab could have a Portal placed in the Garden, but why risk an attack through that Portal?
Rashid is the international man of mystery who goes where he wants to go, when he wants to go there. My money is on Rashid being able to create Portals anywhere, at will.
Final note. Summer Knight establishes the rule for Mab controlling mortals. She can't unless they are linked to the the Courts. See the dialog where she has Harry stab himself with a knife.
Mira:
I doubt seriously that Mab has access, she wasn't just being polite when she asked Harry if she could bury the Ladies on the island. That is an acknowledgement that the island is his realm now. Also the fact when Harry threatened her by saying if she didn't answer his questions he'd have Alfred take her below. She turned pale, he can in effect do that.
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