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vincentric:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 12, 2022, 09:10:50 PM ---Because people overlook the bleeding obvious, Wizards are arrogant and Kemmler personally has to get close enough to the island to lock on. The wardens job was to prevent that. Then Kemmler locked onto a new plan, the Darkhallow which did not require use of the prison and its inmates. We can presume in Warlocks he was searching for Demonreach. He was then back in Europe to start WW1, presumably a new Scheme, and after that WW2.
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And in order to do that, the wardens need to be somewhat in the vicinity of the island. Just knowing where the others are stationed would let a navigation savvy wizard (or warlock infiltrator) have enough info to find the place. I'm not saying that it's common knowledge just that a) It's absurd to think that Kemmler didn't know the geographical location and b) The security assigned to the place is too lax and c) If the White Council has fallen to the place where secrets are hampering rather than aiding their stated mission to protect the mortal world, they need a top to bottom reorganization and restructuring.
g33k:
--- Quote from: vincentric on July 12, 2022, 11:43:46 PM --- ... c) If the White Council has fallen to the place where secrets are hampering rather than aiding their stated mission to protect the mortal world, they need a top to bottom reorganization and restructuring.
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I think that's a given. One way or another, we've been seeing this over and over again.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 10, 2022, 04:13:10 AM ---I just reread that scene, Mab's reaction was approval of Harry humbling Marcone in front of everyone, because it was with a sarcastic tone that he called him, "Sir." Mab was clearly supporting Harry all through that though she didn't say much, she didn't have to, but she seemed to enjoy Harry getting the best of Marcone.
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I was thinking of:
--- Quote ---Mab's eyebrow went up so far that it threatened the line of her skull. Then she said, as if to Marcone, "Much is explained."
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She was backing Harry about claiming the castle because, as she pointed out later, sowing doubt about the whereabouts of the Eye even though everyone thinks he /probably/ has it is even better than advertising it.
But I don't think her reaction to the hint about Marcone holding Namshiel's coin reads as feigned. What purpose would faking it serve? She may have suspected, but this landed as confirmation for her.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 12, 2022, 11:19:42 PM ---Remember how many of the SC came to Demonreach when Harry arranged his "parlor scene" / confrontation? On the island, the Warden is a credible threat against Mab herself. Those councilors -- senior as they are -- would fall like ninepins. If they knew what Demonreach was, what it could do, they wouldn't have put themselves there when they had such doubts about Harry.
QED: the "senior council" -- as a body -- doesn't know what the island really is, what it can really do. Only a few of the individual wizards have any idea... and they're busy smoking their own crack-pipes, not sharing with the others.
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Plus Ancient Mai talked about it like she didn't realize why the island was "unpleasant".
From his notes and Vadderung's "Most of the people", I think Eb was in the know as to what the island is. LtW possibly also. But Rashid may not have shared with them that Harry had taken up the Warden mantle before they came to the island. Even those in the know probably expected Alfred to be "asleep".
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 12, 2022, 09:59:28 AM --- ... And yes while it is an island in the middle of a fresh water lake, the Great Lakes get their name for a reason.
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And yet a wizard in 1776 could take a Way to the island, shoot the stars with a sextant, and go "Right then, I'm in the southern reaches of Lake Michigan." If they were really good at it, they could reliably mark the location on a map.
If they cared to know, the information is trivially-easy to get.
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