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Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: seanham on July 09, 2022, 07:00:28 PM ---Back to the OP, why does Nameless need to seek shelter under the protection of Winter/Mab as a vassal? It sounds like he is very powerful. Why is he not a Freeholder Lord? Also, what could Mab get out of the deal? As pointed out by Bob Nameless is a difficult ally to have because his aura(?) creates division and chaos, not things you want when planning for a battle. We know that Mab does nothing without reason so what could her reason be for bringing Nameless as her vassal? Also, we'll probably see him again in 12 Months because he is probably the Lawyer reviewing the conditions for Harries and Lara's dates.

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The obvious reason for Nameless to seek shelter in Winter is that he was in fact doing an Arnim Zola for the Circle, Mab may have foreseen this and decided to keep him close and locked down by Winter Law. For all we have seen of Cowl his only interaction with Winter was giving Lea the Athame, for which he was heavily disguised suggesting Lea might otherwise recognise him. If Cowl is Nameless this makes sense. Giving Lea the Athame should not be a violation of Winter Law on the part of Nameless but look at the damage that did to Winter. Almost as though Cowl was looking for a loophole in Winter Law.

The scene in Nameless meeting room  dwells upon three items one is obviously Checkov’s Bear Skull, one is a scrimshawed Walrus Tusk (a gift from Lacuna?) the last is a cruelly curved dagger. I believe we have only seen one person with a magical dagger before, Cowl in Grave Peril.

I believe Nameless has been working for Marcone for some time before Harry notified her of Namshiel

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Mira on July 09, 2022, 08:06:46 PM ---Also I believe she knows that Namshiel had something to do with the attack on Arctis Tor, that Marcone had the coin and that it was only a matter of time before he took it up.  So Nameless is useful to her as one who can keep an eye on Marcone and all his business dealings, thus Namshiel.

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I'm not sure why she'd react like Harry addressing Marcone as "Sir" at the end of BG was filling in a piece for her if she already knew.

Conspiracy Theorist:
I think Arctis Tor was a ploy by Mab to draw out her enemies, just like holding the Peace Talks near a large body of water on Mab and Winters weakest day of the year, she set up circumstances where she would look vulnerable.

The ejection of Nameless and Laplander, the move on Maeve, the recruitment of Molly and setting up Nicodemus to use up his favour on a pointless (for him) Assault on Hades Vault seem to be the consequences of that ploy.

That we know of.

vincentric:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 09, 2022, 04:55:23 PM ---The Council wanted an absentee Warden, someone who would be a placeholder without really wanting the position. They were hoping to forget about Demonreach and fall back into their favourite pass time of internal politics. Besides the ENTIRE Senior Council were being influenced at the time by Peabody. If the aim was Demonreach you can bet they were influenced not to think about it. As only the Senior Council really knew of it none of the wizards helping them recover knew to ask about it, and deal with Peabody instructions on it.

Two new points on re-read

(1) the Otso perfectly describes how Bob or Bonea could enflesh their skulls, a theory I have been putting forward.


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I can see the Council wanting an absentee Warden. They don't want any one wizard to have that power.

Bur I can't see any of the other Powers protecting the world wanting this. Again, too much harm can be done in too short a time with no obvious warnings. Mab doesn't take chances with that much risk of failure. I doubt Uriel is happy with the arrangement either. It's a big hole in Jim's universe building.

The Otso was summoned by Lapland. It's something from the NeverNever summoned using the skull as a focus. The limits that we see on Spirts of Intellect like Bob are all that keep them from being major Powers in the world. With a physical body, Bob would be the equal of a powerful White Council member and he'd be able to build and hide numerous bolt-holes to hide in. The Dresdenverse would be much more like a game of Shadowrun if the spirits could roam free.

seanham:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 09, 2022, 08:20:07 PM ---The obvious reason for Nameless to seek shelter in Winter is that he was in fact doing an Arnim Zola for the Circle, Mab may have foreseen this and decided to keep him close and locked down by Winter Law. For all we have seen of Cowl his only interaction with Winter was giving Lea the Athame, for which he was heavily disguised suggesting Lea might otherwise recognise him. If Cowl is Nameless this makes sense. Giving Lea the Athame should not be a violation of Winter Law on the part of Nameless but look at the damage that did to Winter. Almost as though Cowl was looking for a loophole in Winter Law.

The scene in Nameless meeting room  dwells upon three items one is obviously Checkov’s Bear Skull, one is a scrimshawed Walrus Tusk (a gift from Lacuna?) the last is a cruelly curved dagger. I believe we have only seen one person with a magical dagger before, Cowl in Grave Peril.

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Good point about Lea recognizing Cowl but that does not prove that Nameless is Cowl. Remember Harry thinks that the reason why Cowl and Kumori hid themselves in their clocks is because HE (or others) would recognize them from the White Council. Also, if Nameless is as powerful as Bob says he is why has Harry beaten him in their past meetings? Finally, if Kumori is Lapland then why has Harry not felt the sexual "wammy" that he felt? Why would Lapland hide this ability or for that matter why would Lapland want to "cure death"?

Also, do y'all really think Jim would introduce Cowl's real identity in a novella? Especially one that is just an electronic read for now? From the other novella's/short stories only Bigfoot has been introduced and re-appeared in the main books.

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