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Greeks vs Romans
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 04, 2022, 05:29:04 PM --- But Red Court vampires were human once, before they were infected.
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The first time Harry met Mab -- before the iron-nail / unmasking interaction -- she tried to entice him into a soulgaze, and he declined... in part, because he was already pretty sure she wasn't mortal, and knew that trying to soulgaze some nonhuman entities could be very dangerous for a mortal.
If Harry had accepted the soulgaze with Mab, I don't think we know what would have happened; not nothing, I presume (or Mab would not have offered). Mab was also human once; but there's not very much of that person left.
Blampires are former-humans, but are emphatically not human any longer. Their gaze is dangerous... trying to soulgaze one would likely be an invitation to become their thrall.
Basil:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 04, 2022, 05:11:08 AM ---Not so (for the first bit).
The Etruscans were essentially contemporaneous with the ancient (pre-Republic) Kingdom of Rome; the Republic stage of Rome saw the end of the Etruscans as rivals of theirs. The Romans definitely borrowed from the Etruscans (several loan-words have been documented, for example). It may well have gone both ways, but we know a LOT more about the Romans. Etruscan "borrowings" from Rome -- if any (I assert the extreme likelihood thereof) -- are AFAIK lost to the ravages of time and Empire.
Mycenean Greece predates both; then Greece had a fragmented "Dark Age" for some centuries. The "Archaic Greek" era and the rise of the "Polis" city-state model in Greece was, again, roughly contemporaneous with the early Etruscans & Romans.
(I am unclear how much of this historical trivia is relevant to the Dresdenverse; but, see below!)
This is... an excellent point.
Given that we learned relatively long-ago that the Whamp "court language" was Etruscan, the lack of further info is indeed "suspicious" (OTOH, I wouldn't put it past Jim to simply be holding this back in order to provoke speculation, as a red-herring sort of thing).
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We haven't deciphered much of Etruscan as of yet, but I think they are hopeful a they find more stuff.
I think it is interesting that we know very little of White Court origins. I suspect that they are the offspring of a powerful Etruscan wizard that "did a deal."
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 04, 2022, 06:51:24 PM ---The first time Harry met Mab -- before the iron-nail / unmasking interaction -- she tried to entice him into a soulgaze, and he declined... in part, because he was already pretty sure she wasn't mortal, and knew that trying to soulgaze some nonhuman entities could be very dangerous for a mortal.
If Harry had accepted the soulgaze with Mab, I don't think we know what would have happened; not nothing, I presume (or Mab would not have offered). Mab was also human once; but there's not very much of that person left.
Blampires are former-humans, but are emphatically not human any longer. Their gaze is dangerous... trying to soulgaze one would likely be an invitation to become their thrall.
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But doesn't mean there isn't enough human left for a soul gaze.. There is still a hint of human in Mab, we saw that in a second of weakness after Maeve died in Cold Days. Harry saw it and Kringle warned him never to let her or anyone else know that he saw it.
Feral Plum:
About the nameless one. It has been shown that Harry Dresden has the ability to put a name to things. Names that stick. Off the top of my head, see the over reaction to giving a wrong - shortened name - to an angel.
Is the nameless Mr Winter in danger from Harry. Or does he crave a name from someone who cam give him a NAME?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Feral Plum on July 17, 2022, 08:12:16 PM ---About the nameless one. It has been shown that Harry Dresden has the ability to put a name to things. Names that stick. Off the top of my head, see the over reaction to giving a wrong - shortened name - to an angel.
Is the nameless Mr Winter in danger from Harry. Or does he crave a name from someone who cam give him a NAME?
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Harry generally gives names for two reasons, affection or to mock and belittle an foe. Now I am not sure if he will attempt it with a demi-god, but he did give an archangel a nick name so one never knows.
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