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A notion...
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 15, 2022, 11:01:17 AM --- Bob has traveled outside of his skull when Harry has given him time off or when he is on a mission for Harry.
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But he was a "naked" spirit there, subject to dissipation at dawn.
The speculation at hand is whether a spirit can summon an ectoplasmic body to protect them from sunlight ... a good case has been made for "no, they cannot."
--- Quote from: Mira on June 15, 2022, 11:01:17 AM --- ... However other than the mention of him riding on the back of Mister, nothing is said about what his appearance looks like ...
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I think in those cases he is "riding" inside of Mister; a form of "possession" if you will. And that protects him from sunlight, too.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 15, 2022, 12:46:42 PM ---Um he animated a bronze lion in Skin Game.
If he can do that then he can pull ectoplasm from the Never Never and animate that.
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The one doesn't follow from the other.
And I'm pretty sure some of the scenes had Bob barely making it home before sunrise (which it was said would have destroyed him).
Conspiracy Theorist:
Dawn would destroy him if he is outside of a sanctum, or the NeverNever if he surrounds his sanctum with ectoplasmic flesh he is safe, but the spell would fail and Bob’s body would dissolve into a splash of ectoplasm, meaning no overnight assignations for Bob as his date would wake up to a naked skull in a puddle of ectoplasm. It’s why you don’t take faerie gold (or bitcoin) they evaporate at dawn.
If Harry can sneeze living giant spiders into existence by creating them out of ectoplasm Bob and Bonea can create bodies, but it would taken a continuing expenditure of magic to do so, could be interrupted by dawn or a magic circle or enough gross physical damage.
We have interestingly been given visuals for both in Ghost Story Bob visualises himself as Butters nerdier younger brother. Similarly Bonea is an amalgam of all the women Harry has loved depicted as a vulnerable child younger than Maggie. Therefore Jim has certainly considered this.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 15, 2022, 05:28:02 PM ---Dawn would destroy him if he is outside of a sanctum, or the NeverNever if he surrounds his sanctum with ectoplasmic flesh he is safe, but the spell would fail and Bob’s body would dissolve into a splash of ectoplasm, meaning no overnight assignations for Bob as his date would wake up to a naked skull in a puddle of ectoplasm...
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But the Ramps summoned their flesh-masks out of ectoplasm... and the older ones had learned how to even have their masks survive the sun!
I expect Bob knows that trick, too... but cannot use it, for some reason.
Bob is actually a VERY strong spirit -- strong enough that Harry used Bob to armor Murph against the Lords of the Outer Night -- so "not strong enough" doesn't seem like the answer.
It seems likely that it's something about the spirit-state.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 15, 2022, 05:28:02 PM --- If Harry can sneeze living giant spiders into existence by creating them out of ectoplasm Bob and Bonea can create bodies.
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Harry -- embodied, living, mortal Harry -- is a different category of being.
vincentric:
If Bob or Evil Bob could manifest an ectoplasmic body, they'd be completely independent.
They could build as many Sanctums as they wanted while manifesting, hide them all over and have plenty of safehouses that no one knows about.
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