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King Arthur's Scabbard

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whitelaughter:
From Morte d' Arthur:
Then Sir Arthur looked on the sword, and liked it passing well. Whether liketh you better, said Merlin, the sword or the scabbard? Me liketh better the sword, said Arthur. Ye are more unwise, said Merlin, for the scabbard is worth ten of the swords, for whiles ye have the scabbard upon you, ye shall never lose no blood, be ye never so sore wounded; therefore keep well the scabbard always with you.

Given that in Dresdenverse:
1) Excalibur is a Sword of the Cross, and
2) Nicodemus has a Noose with the powers of the Scabbard above, and
3) the Swords can change form -

maybe the Noose used to be the Scabbard? Certainly Nicodemus would enjoy persuading the Knights that one of their holy relics was an evil artifact. It is Arthurian canon that the scabbard is stolen by a witch.

Regenbogen:
Nice idea, but I'm afraid, I'll have to disappoint you. The noose is supposed to be the one Judas used to hang himself with.
https://dresdenfiles.fandom.com/wiki/Nicodemus_Archleone%27s_noose#cite_note-WP-B-1

Conspiracy Theorist:
The swords do no change shape either, they change form. The Sword of Faith has moved more into the spiritual and away from the physical, but it is still a Sword. Nick has also had it since the time of Christ.

The Scabbard may however have been the Shroud, the superweapons are supposed to be an order of magnitude more powerful than the Swords and were created from the nails of the Crucifixion so are related to the superweapons. I have posited in the past that the Shroud was also the Golden Fleece as both have reputed similar powers of healing, but there is no reason it could not be all three. Wearing the Shroud would be similar to the Noose it effectively heals the wearer and renders them effectively immortal from physical harm. Given what it is though it may also give protection like the Blackstaff but even more so from psychic, spiritual and mental harm. You would simply need to wrap the Shroud around the normal wooden scabbard to achieve the effect.

The Witch sounds like Mab, who is most likely the Lady of the Lake, so she would have been reclaiming it to return to Hades, with the Grail.

I am wondering whether the Placard was also in play to protect Camelot. The Placard works so long as the person keying it with their blood is alive. Having a man wearing the Shroud would certainly do that.

Arthur also had a Magical dagger Carnwennan a gift from god like Excalibur which was supposed to shroud him in shadows and was used to kill a giant. Sound familiar? The Spear may have also have been in play.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 03, 2022, 04:54:03 PM ---The swords do no change shape either, they change form. The Sword of Faith has moved more into the spiritual and away from the physical, but it is still a Sword. Nick has also had it since the time of Christ.

--- End quote ---

Michael did say they had records of the other two besides Excalibur being reforged at some point in the KOTC's history, though. They may have changed shape somewhat then.

But I agree with the core point. Nic probably got his coin and the noose direct off Judas' body and has been holding it ever since.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on June 03, 2022, 04:54:03 PM --- ... The Witch sounds like Mab, who is most likely the Lady of the Lake, so she would have been reclaiming it to return to Hades, with the Grail ...
--- End quote ---

I understand Arthur to have been before Mab's tenure.

But it was probably one of the three Queens (or rather, six -- Lady in the Lake seems very Jenny-Greenteeth, so Summerfae is at least as likely as Winterfae).

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