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Mira:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on May 28, 2022, 08:25:04 AM ---Elaine had a role in shaping Harry, when they were together - and for years after, when he thought that he had KILLED her, his first love.  Thinking he had killed her did much in making Harry who he is now. Remember, it is still very early in Storm front he mentions his first love... and that he killed her.

She may be back, but she had a purpose, and she served it. But we know Ramirez is aware of her. Chekov's Gun?

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When she has returned she has proven to be a very good partner and foil for Harry.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 28, 2022, 05:24:18 PM ---When she has returned she has proven to be a very good partner and foil for Harry.

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Too obvious for Jim. First love, raised together.... plus now his new fiancee could not allow it...;)

g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on May 22, 2022, 04:46:35 AM ---...
As far as the sex.. Thomas is not raping his way thru Chicago. it's willing partners. Thomas is gorgeous. We keep hearing that. Think a Margot Robbie can't get some any evening she wants in the clubs?
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Thomas is a whamp; they're all beyond pretty, of course, but the WhiteCourt "whammy" is really really similar to a date-rape drug (I'd be utterly unsurprised if that wasn't part of Jim's original design-intent).  Point is -- it strips away the woman's ability to say "no" which means there is no actual consent.  It's rape... despite the fact that (so far as I know) the whamps can't even turn it off!  At most -- if well-fed -- they can turn it down.  It's actually a twisted variant of "guy culture" -- "boys will be boys" and "he just couldn't help himself" and similar sorts of bullshit.

Except that Thomas works hard to avoid rape, and actually, he mostly succeeds.  He does the "hairdresser" schtick, he goes for svartalves (and maybe other supernaturals) who can resist the mental domination and just enjoy the erotic buzz, etc.

I think the TV series could lean in on this -- how Thomas is this involuntary sexual predator who's trying to rise above that.

We've had "Lost Girl" which is about a literal succubus.  We see her sexually-murder a guy in episode 1 (granted, the guy was trying to slip a date-rape drug into someone's drink... so I suspect the justification was that he "deserved it"); it lasted 4-5 seasons IIRC.


--- Quote from: Ed0517 on May 22, 2022, 04:46:35 AM ---...
Incest in the White Court? Um, Game of Thrones?
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A father raping his (minor) daughter -- specifically to impose coercive mental bondage -- is really really different.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on May 28, 2022, 08:25:04 AM --- Elaine
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 may be back, but she had a purpose, and she served it. But we know Ramirez is aware of her. Chekov's Gun?

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Oh, absolutely.

My own WAG/theory is that Elaine was Nemfected -- likely by Justin (nut maybe in the period immediatly after Harry's duel with Justin) -- and was the vector by which Aurora got Nemfected.

And Elaine is still Nemfected.

Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on May 28, 2022, 11:18:30 PM ---Oh, absolutely.

My own WAG/theory is that Elaine was Nemfected -- likely by Justin (nut maybe in the period immediatly after Harry's duel with Justin) -- and was the vector by which Aurora got Nemfected.

And Elaine is still Nemfected.

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I've thought that all along, now if it is true, Harry will find it out.  It is possible that after she infected Aurora she was no long infected.. 

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