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Offline g33k

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Re: Battle ground questions
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2022, 12:31:44 AM »
Membership of the Accords would protect the members from the depredations of other Members or face the wrath of Mab.

The White Council  could not hunt down and execute ‘warlocks’ openly who are members of an accorded nation, Winter could not prey on them. The Black Court, the Denarians and the Fomor would incite Article 4 should they attack them.

The benefit? The Accorded Nations can point to a relatively large base of ‘normal’ humans and say to the rest of humanity “look we support and protect you, just like we did with Chicago” it’s an essential step in opening up the Supernatural. The White Council is too small and unrepresentative to do this. It’s an elite and very happy about that thank you.

I'm pretty sure Mab isn't that proactive about the Accords.

If you can't maintain your own position when the standard predators come sniffing around -- and they will! -- you probably shouldn't have signed on in the first place.
 
Mab approves of predators culling the weak.
It's very Winter!
 

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Re: Battle ground questions
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2022, 01:34:25 AM »
I'm pretty sure Mab isn't that proactive about the Accords.

If you can't maintain your own position when the standard predators come sniffing around -- and they will! -- you probably shouldn't have signed on in the first place.
 
Mab approves of predators culling the weak.
It's very Winter!
 
Membership of the Accords would protect the members from the depredations of other Members or face the wrath of Mab.

The White Council  could not hunt down and execute ‘warlocks’ openly who are members of an accorded nation, Winter could not prey on them. The Black Court, the Denarians and the Fomor would incite Article 4 should they attack them.

The benefit? The Accorded Nations can point to a relatively large base of ‘normal’ humans and say to the rest of humanity “look we support and protect you, just like we did with Chicago” it’s an essential step in opening up the Supernatural. The White Council is too small and unrepresentative to do this. It’s an elite and very happy about that thank you.

That all depends on how useful they make themselves to Mab.

If they are just run of the mill members, then Mab will only take action when there are blatant violations, but you can bet that any violations she discovers will get added to her to-do list. The issue is how big a priority they are. Her taking vengeance decades after the incident won't bring back the dead.

But if they are a Nation that enters into an alliance with her and makes sacrifices proportional to their ability to contribute? That's a whole different ballgame. That could be seen as a direct challenge to her and while it may take time, that avalanche is coming for you, though you won't see it until just before it hits.

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Re: Battle ground questions
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2022, 03:50:46 AM »
Mab takes her Accords VERY seriously. It is not who us especially useful to her or is strong enough to defend themselves it’s equal (strict) treatment under them.

It allows for the Code Duello, if a member of an Accorded Nation has a bone to pick with a member of another nation that’s fine with her provided the niceties are observed and the loser swept up in a timely fashion. It’s to prevent such feuds expanding into all out war (this is why she helped engineer the destruction of the Ramps with her brand new Winter Knight, they cheated to create a pretext for war inside the Accords, thus undermining them, exactly the same as the Fomor, the War against the White Council was as much against Mab’s Accords as the battle of Chicago, to break up the Accords and turn the members against humanity.

If the White Council are going to take out Harry they either have to make it look like an accident as in Little Things (“incompetent so called wizard blew himself up and took 50 people with him”), or go down the Code Duello, which even the most powerful wizards would hesitate in doing, given their designated hitter is his grandfather whom he just beat one on one before taking down a mad goddess.

Attack Harry otherwise and he can call on Winter for help, up to and including Mab. Doing so in breach of the Accords means that he can petition Mab for the other Accorded Nations to join in, or for a wider settlement. The same applies to all Accorded Nations.

This appears to have been more observed in the breach prior to Peace Talks, both the Reds, And the Fomor were playing games, (and yes the Denarians as well on a smaller scale) the Reds maneuvering the White Council to start the War, the Fomor deliberately preying on practitioners who were non-White Council members, enough in each case for the other Accorded Nations to turn a blind eye, both playing the “we want a wider settlement card” whilst planning total victory.the Denarians breaking the arbitration clause to nab the Arbitrator).

The Accords post Battle Ground will be more clearly adhered to, Ethnui didn’t just try total victory over one member like the Reds, she tried it against all of them. Not just a White Council problem as with the Reds and the Denarians.

In each instance the instrument of Mab’s justice has been Harry, arguably if Harry had taken up Mab’s offer earlier, he would have been used to end the Reds much earlier.

So if an Accorded someone tries to pick on an Accorded Paranet Member in their official capacity they have to realise they will be taking on Harry with the resources of Winter behind him, enforcing the Accords. Not a good time to be a Warden. Especially in Chicago with the entire CYPD now clued into the supernatural. It’s not just Mab’s justice they have to be worried about. Want to be doubly safe? Move to Chicago