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Did I miss something...?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 21, 2022, 10:18:40 AM ---Whilst Nicky and the Denarians are running around noisily trying to bring on the armageddon, what is Lucifer up to? Perhaps he is running his own team of hand picked operatives trying to supplant the White God. We have confirmation of Lucifer impacting upon Dresden twice, he is definitely keeping a light hand because every time he directly intervenes Uriel cock blocks him. The Denarians allow for indirect intervention but they face off against the Knights a stalemate.
If I were Lucifer I would set up a body of mortal or near mortal beings of power able to use their lovely free will to do my bidding without incurring either Uriel or the Knights intervention. What does THAT sound like. Everyone keeps an eye out for Nicky and ignores Cowl altogether.
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I thought Lucifer did that, they are called Denarians and their servants... ???
Conspiracy Theorist:
The Denarians are the 30 Fallen Lucifer LEAST trusted, or I suspect the 27-28 he least trusted and 1-3 most trusted. So he told them to raise hell in the mortal world and kept them out of his hair. Meanwhile he personally handpicks competent people like Cowl, Listen etc, he trusts to carry out his actual plan to undermine and replace the White God.
It’s how you make people you don’t trust still useful, as useful idiots. Nicky will not like that. Nor will Anduriel unless he is in on it.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 21, 2022, 11:30:57 AM ---The Denarians are the 30 Fallen Lucifer LEAST trusted, or I suspect the 27-28 he least trusted and 1-3 most trusted. So he told them to raise hell in the mortal world and kept them out of his hair. Meanwhile he personally handpicks competent people like Cowl, Listen etc, he trusts to carry out his actual plan to undermine and replace the White God.
It’s how you make people you don’t trust still useful, as useful idiots. Nicky will not like that. Nor will Anduriel unless he is in on it.
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??? Is there a WOJ about that?
Conspiracy Theorist:
Brought up by someone else on another thread.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: MoroccoMole on April 18, 2022, 11:56:29 PM ---What in the heck is Harry talking about here? This is from BG, when Ethniu let loose with the eye on the northside.
"The world gasped and went scarlet again, red light flooding through the haze of war. The air screamed with unnatural power as the Eye of Baylor unleashed raw destruction upon the city, and my heart took a terrified flutter. I had only once before witnessed destructive power on that order of magnitude, and that had been at the will of the Fallen Angel himself - and even then it had been carefully constrained, user for a purpose."
When did Harry witness the power of Lucifer? Or am I misreading who he's talking about? I don't think any of the nickelheads have shown anything like the power of the Eye.
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Two points on this.
1) What Harry is referring to is the Signs he witnesses (and the aftermath) in Small Favor. The Signs are large pentagrams of Hellfire that were set up by the Denarians but the power comes from Hell. At the time, Harry assumes Lucifer is doing it.
2) WOJ is that it actually wasn't Lucifer providing the power, but more like one of his lieutenants. The way he said it (in context to the question) made me feel like Jim was trying to hint something.
Harry, as he is often, is a poor narrator. We often get unreliable information because we only get Harry's very limited perspective. So it's hard to sort out the mess. My general rule is I assume it's true unless something suggests otherwise. That's obviously difficult but I feel the WOJ is quite clear in that Harry is mistaken.
--- Quote from: Mira on April 21, 2022, 05:44:57 PM --- ??? Is there a WOJ about that?
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Yeah it's an old one. I'll find it for you.
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