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Starborn - Generals used to control the Outsider Armies or weapons to fight them
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 01, 2022, 02:16:08 PM ---I think it's a bit of an exaggeration. Harry accepts Michael's judgement for the most part, he did trust Murphy's until she died, I think he'd trust Mac as well. He has shown moderation in his judgement as far as the prison and handling the artifacts go. Yes, he totally lost it after he saw the woman he loved senselessly gunned down, which is understandable.
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The statement is about why he is feared not about what he would do. He's lied to anybody and everybody at one point in the story or another, either by omission or commission. Outside looking in, Harry is a big, tall, ugly can of mayhem ready to go off in somebodies face. It is what Butcher has both written into the story and what he says in the WOJ's. That he has warm feelings for puppies and kittens isn't the point.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 02, 2022, 04:26:08 PM ---The statement is about why he is feared not about what he would do. He's lied to anybody and everybody at one point in the story or another, either by omission or commission. Outside looking in, Harry is a big, tall, ugly can of mayhem ready to go off in somebodies face. It is what Butcher has both written into the story and what he says in the WOJ's. That he has warm feelings for puppies and kittens isn't the point.
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I disagree, as far as how the story is written.. I wouldn't characterize Harry as a habitual liar. Considering what he has been subjected to, he has shown quite a lot of restraint as well. As to why he is feared, that is a perception issue, and those have been wrong on a number of occasions, often the first words out of a foe's mouth if Harry is fighting someone, is Harry isn't what they thought he was on a number of levels.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Hell is not United, Lucifer put the 30 Fallen he least trusted into the Denarius, and of those 30 at least one is betraying the rest and working with Black Council, unless Lucifer put the 29 he least trusted and the one he most trusted in the Denarius, and his spy is his liaison with the Black Council.
Lucifer may have set the Denarians up as misdirection, they tie up the Swords and people’s attention with Nicky’s schemes whilst Lucifer plays the long game, using mortals like Cowl to work through his plan where Uriel can’t thwart him.
For all we know Listen is Lucifers pet Starborn, a double agent placed in the Fomor to turn or destroy Harry as an aside to the destruction of the Accords. It was his idea to attack the Carpenters after all why would Ethnui bother about one petty wizard? While I am of the school that Rudy was the Merlin’s dupe, he could easily have been Listens dupe and therefore Lucifers by proxy, cannon fodder to be murdered by Harry.
HeWhoSucksAtWalking:
--- Quote from: HeWhoSucksAtWalking on March 29, 2022, 02:28:45 PM ---Simple enough question..The WC seems to fear Harry like he's Darth Vader. My question is if the whole Starborn system was infact put in place by the Old Ones or Outsiders to lead their armies since only Mortal Magic can summon them here ( also given they seem to be able exert some control over the Outsiders . Then at some point the whole system was hijacked at some point by the accorded nations.. Thoughts?
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Sure it was his idea to attack the Carpenters but he's seen enough fairy bullshit to see through. I keep going back to what Ethnui said as Harry Binded her
"So you're saying that Listen betrayed me"
Maybe he did. Who knows
Conspiracy Theorist:
Listen is probably alive and free Ethnui, not so much. If he was Black Council then they were using Ethnui and the Fomor, in much the same way they used the Red Court.
Molly didn’t use a glamour in the traditional sense, of an illusion, she created simulacra bodies like she did for Harry, and that was good enough to fool Eb.
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