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Coins and Choices
Mira:
--- Quote ---There's a few supposed Spears out there, claiming to be the real one. Unconquerable? Then I guess the one the Holy Roman Empire had wasn't real.... some also say the power is in seeing the future, not necessarily winning... else, wouldn't Harry have just had to show up and stick it in Ethniu? Harry can't be conquered then, right? But maybe Harry thinks that, and the Spear telepathically tells him, "Nope. Try it and die. Come up with a Plan B" but doesn;'t tell him what to do.
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According to the series, there is a Shroud copy, so why not a Spear Copy? As to Harry, in the end Ethniu didn't conquer him, it was the other way around. It wasn't pretty, he had a lot of help, but he won, that is the point.. The legend surrounding the Spear doesn't claim that winning would be without sacrifice.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The superweapons are supposed to be far older than Christianity repurposed for a different task the Shroud for example may have been the Golden Fleece. Copies were made of these relics of course and obtained veneration becoming powerful to a degree in their own right, and these copies themself turn up under different names.
The Grail would likely have put in Hades safekeeping by Merlin in the 5th Century AD, it strikes me a canny chap like Merlin may have created a fake and put it back into circulation so as not to draw attention to it being out of circulation and did the same with the other superweapons, as and when they were collected (probably by Merlin). Merlin had Excalibur, so would have been able to imbue his fakes with a patina of its godly power, which Harry recognised as being the same as the Swords in Skin Game.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The superweapons are supposed to be far older than Christianity repurposed for a different task the Shroud for example may have been the Golden Fleece. Copies were made of these relics of course and obtained veneration becoming powerful to a degree in their own right, and these copies themself turn up under different names.
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Metaphorically perhaps, but there is a huge difference between a sheep's skin and woven linen.
--- Quote ---The Grail would likely have put in Hades safekeeping by Merlin in the 5th Century AD, it strikes me a canny chap like Merlin may have created a fake and put it back into circulation so as not to draw attention to it being out of circulation and did the same with the other superweapons, as and when they were collected (probably by Merlin). Merlin had Excalibur, so would have been able to imbue his fakes with a patina of its godly power, which Harry recognised as being the same as the Swords in Skin Game.
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Fakes can gain power because of people's faith in them.. However remember what Hades said about who eventually gains access to the real thing, has to demonstrate that they have the power and smarts to wield them. So Merlin wouldn't need fakes, he had both power and smarts to use them as needed. The search for the Grail gave his protege, King Arthur a focus to unite and rally his knights and people around. It was found as the story goes, but lost again. Harry has them now, but by the end of the series I bet all of the Artifacts will return to the vault, including the Grail. Nic's plan backfired, he got what he asked for, but not the Artifact he wanted..
Conspiracy Theorist:
The fakes were decoys for people to chase after when the real things were carefully locked away.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on March 21, 2022, 11:09:58 PM ---The fakes were decoys for people to chase after when the real things were carefully locked away.
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To what purpose? All that would accomplish is destroy faith.
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