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Demonreach's spells and Turn Coat

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on March 04, 2022, 01:32:47 PM ---Perhaps Shaggy had seen Night of the Lepus, and it gave him nightmares?

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More like Monty Python's "Search for the Holy Grail.."

JTass:

--- Quote from: seanham on February 17, 2022, 05:16:34 AM ---This appears to say that Shagnasty has seen spells like this before, AKA Merlin's work. So where else could he have seen this work? We know that the Naagloshii are based in the American Southwest, and typically Merlin lore comes out of Europe, so did Merlin do more spell work in America, or did the Naagloshii travel across the pond to Europe sometime. Also, any ideas what else would require this complex level of spell work to be laid down?

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I interpreted that from the opposite direction than you did... I made the assumption that the creator of the wards (didn't know it was Merlin at the time) had incorporated elements of Native American magic that were effective against Naagloshi.
So it's not that Shagnasty was familiar with Merlin's works, it's that Merlin was familiar with  Naagloshi and included protections against them that were recognizable to Shagnasty.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Naagloshinare semi divine, would these wards work against Angels, even Mr Sunshine.

JTass:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on March 05, 2022, 12:21:27 AM ---Naagloshinare semi divine, would these wards work against Angels, even Mr Sunshine.

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Only Jim knows...
As I said, my assumption was that Merlin's wards incorporated elements of Native American shamanic magic specifically targeted against Naagloshi. If that's the case, they probably wouldn't affect angels of The White God.
However, it's also possible that Merlin incorporated Judeo-Christian symbology capable of thwarting angels as well (one would assume with the intention of protection against the Fallen rather than Mr Sunshine and his brethren).

*Edit* Scratch that - Nicky and/or the Nickelheads had no problem entering the tower in order to set up or repurpose the circle designed to contain Ivy.

Mira:

--- Quote ---*Edit* Scratch that - Nicky and/or the Nickelheads had no problem entering the tower in order to set up or repurpose the circle designed to contain Ivy.
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Could it be because at that time there was no Warden for the island?  Remember there are defenses that only the Warden can turn on.  Yeah, I know Harry wasn't officially Warden as of Turn Coat, but he had become aware of the island and it him after he had done his thing with Alfred.  Maybe that made the difference?

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