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Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
Conspiracy Theorist:
Demonreach was put there for the principal reason, the genius loci. Merlin might have figured where future cycles would hit, so that may have been a secondary reason if the old time traveller was aware this would be a very tricky cycle as it also involves the Apocalypse.
I have argued that people were not sure until relatively recently where Demonreach was in the mortal world even Kemmler, as it was accessed from the NeverNever where the next best form of transport was horse and sailboat. You are right a lot of Old World Wizards would have looked to the Caspian Sea for centuries. Kemmler knew it was in the New World when he was Warden, but that gives an truly enormous area to search, especially when it is immune to divination.
I think the 50k is a gross overstatement to hide things. Halloween is the day that the barrier between the mortal and the supernatural is at its weakest, and the witching hour when a practitioner is at their strongest. If it’s birth whic is suggested, then I suspect it’s when the soul of the infant fully separates from that of his mother, they would be overlapping until then. I wonder what a pregnant lady looks like through the third eye? A jumble of overlapping and flickering images I would expect.
The searchlight could have been large enough to cover more than one big city and the next nearest is Milwaukee subject of the unseelie incursion of 94. Maybe not everyone had as accurate an mapping of where the searchlight would hit this time so the maternity wards in Chicago were ignored because all the Starborn chasers were in Milwaukee, and most only figured this out in 94.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I wouldn't worry too much about random numbers Butcher pulled out of his butt. Chicago didn't exist 666 years ago. Since he set the books in Chicago he therefore must center the story around that locale. The idea of Demonreach is the weakest because of that choice. It's 4000 miles from London. No one from the era of Hastings had any idea at that moment that 5 freshwater lakes existed in North America. And no one other than someone who walked here knew of North America. How Merlin figured this out is a mystery. The Caspian Sea is the largest lake and it isn't in Chicago. So if you needed a big lake and were in Europe you would have went East and not West to find your fresh water lake. In any sense where logic applies the fact that Demonreach exists in Chicago implies it exists because someone in Chicago today put it there for some reason.
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I agree as far as Chicago goes, that it didn't exist 666 years ago is valid. However since we've seen the short that Alfred played for Harry back in Cold Days as to how Merlin built the island, where it is located loses it's importance. Okay, one answer is the Leylines at that point, but it is also suggested that what makes those Leylines so potent is the gods/monsters in the prison feeding the energy. Or could it be the Leylines is the only thing holding them in prison? It becomes the classic chicken or the egg scenario. The difficulties I see since Alfred has a limited range, aside from Merlin, who were the other Wardens of the island with the kind of juice needed to bind these monsters and then get them close enough for Alfred to throw them in the slammer? Yes, the only obvious solution is the monsters were drug through the Nevernever to the island.. But that seems really risky to me, what if one got loose? Or is that even possible once it was bound?
--- Quote ---It comes from a WOJ just after Battle Ground I believe. Jim was asked about how many were running around and he said 40-50, 000 this cycle which doesn't account for previous cycles. And he said the cycles have been going since the beginning of Creation. It's to do with Lucifer's messing around.
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Which, unless the point of having that many is for Harry to unite into a star born army to repel an Outsider invasion, is a real disappointment. One also has to ask, what is the point? I mean out of the fifty thousand born this cycle, how many have the talent or are even aware of or care about Outsiders? More to the point, if they are so common, aside from the Outsider thing, what is so special about them that they are basically top secret information? What is the White Council afraid of? Would they rather Harry got the story from Drakul or Listen? Now that has the potential for fake news that could really do some damage.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Here’s a point, if you know where the searchlight is going to fall in 666 years time, want to farm Starborn and you are both long lived and well off, why not just build a City at that point and call it Chicago? That way you gets loads of Starborn in one go. That may explain supernatural interest in Chicago, they built the City. For the White Court, a high population city is a lovely hunting ground, Raith was old enough and rich enough and had an interest in Starborn..... Raith seems to have lost interest in Chicago after Margaret’s escap.
I live in the UK, our cities have been here Millennia.
Snark Knight:
I hadn't connected this before, but it doesn't make much sense that the Winter Lady before Maeve would have died (assuming that's what he means by "not fared so well") last time a starborn was running around, if the cycle is 666 years and Maeve & Sarissa's father being the "famous Austrian composer" dates them as born not likely earlier than the 1600's.
So there pretty much must have been two Winter Ladies under Mab before Maeve got the role.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on March 01, 2022, 09:15:48 PM ---I hadn't connected this before, but it doesn't make much sense that the Winter Lady before Maeve would have died (assuming that's what he means by "not fared so well") last time a starborn was running around, if the cycle is 666 years and Maeve & Sarissa's father being the "famous Austrian composer" dates them as born not likely earlier than the 1600's.
So there pretty much must have been two Winter Ladies under Mab before Maeve got the role.
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Was it running around or working for the Winter Court? Also just because a flock of them are born once every 666 years, they apparently don't have the same life spans, some may live to be thirty, or 300 or immortal, so it does fit.
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