The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Question of the day.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on February 10, 2022, 10:20:23 PM ---Not necessarily. I don't remember the physical descriptions of Margaret and Malcolm. Perhaps they both were tall. Margaret's mother could have been tall, balancing Eb's short height (Argh, it always bothers me that, as far as we know, Harry never asked his grandfather anything about his grandmother. And yes, I've read the theories that it's Lea). The genetics of height are not so simple.
It is true that Thomas' height can be a hint that Harry inherited his tallness from Malcolm's size (Do you remember if Raith is tall?)
I always understood that every magical being in the Dresdenverse sees Harry as a starborn and a powerful wizard, but nothing else. I don't remember any of them hinting there is something especial in Harry's lineage (besides magic!)
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Agreed, plus we don't know how tall uncles and aunts, grand parents were. Harry's grandmother may have been a tall woman or came from a tall family. We know nothing about her. My parents and grand parents were average height, between five and six feet tall, my mother's uncles on her father's side were big men, well over six feet tall, my brothers grew to be 6'6 and 6'7 respectively, though I am considered tall at 5'7 I am closer to average in height. So we don't know what the gene mix is for Harry, as far as where he gets his height from.
Mira:
--- Quote ---As of Dead Beat when the conversation with Malcolm takes places he still has the sigil doesn't he? His hand is burnt in Blood Rites.
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Yes, but he got that because he picked up the coin, but he never accepted the coin. As in fully embracing it, taking it into himself, thus becoming a Denarian. The coin is physically taken into the body in some way, remember when a Denarian dies the coin sort of falls from the body. Or as in Sanya's case thrown away in rejection. One of Lash's last acts in White Night was to save Harry by trying to get him to accept the coin,when Harry refused it, she sacrificed herself for him.. Once she did that the sigil was gone from his hand. Lasciel had marked Harry, because he touched her coin, but she never got him. With the death of Lash the mark went away. Page 395 White Night
--- Quote ---I'd worn a mark for years--an unblemished patch of skin amidst all the burn scars, in the perfect shape of the angelic sigil that was Lasciel's name. The mark was gone. In it's place was just an irregular patch of unburned skin.
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That's the deal with Uriel, he rewarded Harry for that with Soul Fire, to replace Hell Fire. When Lasciel cheated by trying to influence Harry free will to commit suicide, Uriel could step in with his seven words.. I think he could have stepped in sooner than he did, but he felt that Harry needed to learn a thing or two as he did in Ghost Story.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 11, 2022, 06:29:33 AM ---Agreed, plus we don't know how tall uncles and aunts, grand parents were. Harry's grandmother may have been a tall woman or came from a tall family. We know nothing about her. My parents and grand parents were average height, between five and six feet tall, my mother's uncles on her father's side were big men, well over six feet tall, my brothers grew to be 6'6 and 6'7 respectively, though I am considered tall at 5'7 I am closer to average in height. So we don't know what the gene mix is for Harry, as far as where he gets his height from.
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Thats genetics, environment also plays a factor, average modern heights are generally achieved because of good nutrition. Eb may just have been poorly fed as a child. Scotland still has a bad reputation for nutritional eating. Victorians are shrimps.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on February 11, 2022, 01:30:33 PM ---Thats genetics, environment also plays a factor, average modern heights are generally achieved because of good nutrition. Eb may just have been poorly fed as a child. Scotland still has a bad reputation for nutritional eating. Victorians are shrimps.
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I was going to add nutrition but decided that would perhaps complicate what I was trying to get across. Yes, if you ever visit or have visited the Metropolitan Museum of Art, they have rooms reconstructed from the the 16th, 17th, and 18th Centuries, I found my head nearly touching the ceiling at 5'7. Eb was born somewhere in the late 17th Century, going by the fact that he participated in the French/Indian Wars that I think were in the 1750s. The average height for Americans in that time was 5'10 inches however those in Europe averages were about two inches shorter, this is according to the Livestrong website, contributing factors for the differences were both nutrition and disease. Eb was born in Scotland. Of course there are exceptions in any population.
Dina:
True, nutrition is a very important factor, and, as Mira says, it complicates things. In summary, I do not think we can extract a valid conclusion about the reason for Harry's height.
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