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Some observations on a Winter Day

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morriswalters:
That would tend to disagree with the text. The central plot has two branches.  Molly's and Eb's. Eb's branch is to answer the question, why did Mab not retaliate. The answer to that lies in Dead Beat. Not in Proven Guilty.  There may be a portal in the Garden at Arctis Tor, but if so it had nothing to do with what happened. But no matter what happened the question must be answered in some fashion or the plot makes no sense. Ergo, the answer is in the text and we just don't see it.

The text supports the idea that Namshiel never went in the Court Yard.  when Harry and the others enter at Arctis Tor the entrance is clogged with bones and the bones fan out from the Gate and the external walls are pitted.

I'll give you a scenario but won't defend it.  During Dead Beat the Black Council in collusion with Lucifer has the fortress attacked. Maeve opens a way in the theater that puts Namshiel in close. The purpose of the attack is to  pin Mab at the fortress and make her believe that Summer took part. Only one of the Queens could open a way this close to the fortress and Mab is not sure who did it.  She suspects Summer.  Thus she arrays her force against Summer and does not strike back.  Since she is down a bishop and a knight.

Lilly is a fly in Maeve's ointment.  Neither Maeve nor Mab expect Harry to throw Summer Fire at the Well. By doing so she causes all Winters forces to return to the fortress leaving the border unguarded. Summer supports the Council in their attack on the Reds.  This accomplishes two things. Since Summer doesn't attack her when her troops pull back she now knows that Summer was not part of the attack.  This shines a spotlight on Maeve.

I don't say this is how the plot worked but it answers all the questions that need to be answered.

Mira:

--- Quote ---That would tend to disagree with the text. The central plot has two branches.  Molly's and Eb's. Eb's branch is to answer the question, why did Mab not retaliate. The answer to that lies in Dead Beat. Not in Proven Guilty.  There may be a portal in the Garden at Arctis Tor, but if so it had nothing to do with what happened. But no matter what happened the question must be answered in some fashion or the plot makes no sense. Ergo, the answer is in the text and we just don't see it.

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Or because she was infected, Mab wasn't in any shape to retaliate.. She wasn't just hiding in the ice garden along side of Lea in Proven Guilty, she was taking the cure along side of her.  It gave the Denarians and their allies an opening, because they sensed that she was vulnerable, and they attacked.  Who could have sent word of Mab's vulnerability? Maeve of course..

morriswalters:
Count the pieces on the chessboard. With an eye to the balance of the courts. Butcher feeds you there answer. 

He has Harry present a rationale that you can compare against what really happens later.

Maeve is selling the idea that Mab is Nemfected to the Summer Lady.
--- Quote ---“All right,” I murmured. “Mab’s got a man in the penalty box. She wants to take the offensive before Summer pushes a power play, and she’s looking for ways to even the odds. If Summer goes running off to take on the Reds, it will give her a chance to strike.” I shook my head. “I don’t pretend to know Mab very well, but she isn’t suicidal. If the imbalance is so dangerous, why is she keeping the Winter Knight alive to begin with? And she must see what the consequences of another Winter-Summer war would be.” I looked back and forth between them. “Right?”

“Unfortunately,” Lily said quietly, “our intelligence about the internal politics of Winter is very limited—and Mab is not the sort to reveal her mind to another. I do not know if she realizes the potential danger. Her actions of late have been…” She closed her eyes for a moment and then said, with some obvious effort, “Erratic.”


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The second paragraph is Maeve's con. The first paragraph is for contrast when Harry throws Summer Fire at Winters Wellspring. Mab tells him why Slate lives in another book.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 11, 2022, 10:24:40 AM ---Count the pieces on the chessboard. With an eye to the balance of the courts. Butcher feeds you there answer. 

He has Harry present a rationale that you can compare against what really happens later.

Maeve is selling the idea that Mab is Nemfected to the Summer Lady. The second paragraph is Maeve's con. The first paragraph is for contrast when Harry throws Summer Fire at Winters Wellspring. Mab tells him why Slate lives in another book.

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But was it a con?  I don't think it was, you forget that we saw Mab with the Knife in her belt.  She isn't immune to the effects of the Knife anymore than Lea or Maeve herself were.  I think Mab realized it sooner than Lea did and got her monoclono antibodies before the infection could fully take hold, thus she was able, barely to direct her defense.  However Maeve didn't know, by this time she was full blown bat shit and betrayed her mother.

morriswalters:
Well I never say never anymore, but in the context of the story it is what it is. The question drives the plot of Cold Days.

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