The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Who is Thomas talking to?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on February 27, 2022, 09:15:58 AM ---Luccio also talked about possibly training up her new body to her previous ability. Possibly magic use is part physical and part mental - nerves, perhaps, conduct magical force, without training they can only do so much. Luccio swapped into a non-mage and had SOME ability. Maybe Corpsetaker is limited in the bodies of non-mages, but she can pull her one specialty. Aren't the Black Court eager to get wizards to turn? Maybe it is not just mental. Unfortunately for Luccio, looks like the little cutie she inhabits just isn't going to be able to get where she had been. Sounds a little Heaven Can Wait (Beatty version) ? His new body had to be trained up to get NEAR his old one.
And summoning is not necromancy. No death involved.
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Nor is body switching like the Corpsetaker does,necromancy, she doesn't bring anyone back from the dead to do it. If I remember correctly, Luccio is limited in her new body, while she can still do
the wizard thing, her ability to forge swords to match her new wardens is gone. She also found that her young new body retained all the urges most healthy young bodies have. It is one of the reasons why she was so vulnerable to Peabody's ink and could be manipulated into making a play for Harry.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Necromancy requires summoning the spirit of the deceased, and to bind them, whether it is a ghost, a zombie or Sue, they require similar power, skill and technique to a summoning and binding. That evening Harry summoned and bound the Erl King and Sue, difficult to say which is the greater feat, but we know Sue impressed the Erl King to the extent that he forgave Harry’s past transgressions.
Body swapping again falls into the same skill set, it is taking the spirit from a living body and severing the link, as Corpsetaker was able to do to Butters as a spirit, but not to Mort. Then using you will to take over the vacant vessel.
Whilst summoning is something wizards are taught, necromancy is not, but the next nearest use of the skill set for summoning a spirit are those for summoning an entity. Demonreach has multiple times been described as a spirit, being a physical manifestation of the the island, a genius loci, literally “spirit of the place”. In summoning Molly we have the whole debate between spirit and the flesh in escaping the summoning circle. Harry summoned and bound Demonreach by accident, doing a different ritual or Sanctum invocation to allow him to draw on local power.
Corpsetaker was looking for a body with talent, Molly was too powerful for her to overcome as a spirit especially with Lea in tow, Mort was the next most powerful practitioner in Chicago, more powerful than suspected. I suspect both Harry and Mort are both exceptionally strong in spirit, even if their implementation is very different, the difference is that Harry is as strong in other areas like fire. Mort would be able to summon entities like Harry can and bind them, he probably could have been a warden of Demonreach.
Corpsetaker would also be strong in spirit so fitting into a new body whether by possession or swap is easiest if one is strong in spirit, especially if that is all that you have left to work with. It makes it easier to carry over non-spirit capabilities into a new body. Luccio was strong but perhaps not as strong as an ectomancer or Necromancer in spirit, she could be forcibly swapped by Corpsetaker and be unable to use her full capabilities in her new body, unlike Corpsetaker or Harry.
If strength in spirit rests with the spirit and earth, wind, fire and water with the body this would explain everything, why Harry couldn’t manipulate the real world as a ghost, why Luccio has problems adjusting and Corpsetaker did not, why Luccio was vulnerable to Peabody’s influence etc. As a wizard ages they become more resistant to mental influence and develope foreknowledge, is this the spirit acting on the body, why Luccio hopes to get some power back? How Charity allowed her power to waste away and why Mort was able to regain his?
Necromancy, summoning and body swap ALL require the ability in spirit to dominate another spirit, and bind it, in a circle, to zombie flesh or mortal plane with a drum, or to a living body.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Necromancy requires summoning the spirit of the deceased, and to bind them, whether it is a ghost, a zombie or Sue, they require similar power, skill and technique to a summoning and binding. That evening Harry summoned and bound the Erl King and Sue, difficult to say which is the greater feat, but we know Sue impressed the Erl King to the extent that he forgave Harry’s past transgressions.
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Which is a skill any decent wizard can do, it is just a matter of knowing how... It doesn't make them necromancers...
Definition according to Google;
--- Quote ---What exactly is a necromancer?
noun. a person who uses witchcraft or sorcery, especially to reanimate dead people or to foretell the future by communicating with them: In the story, the boy is killed by a serial killer and then revived as a zombie by a necromancer.
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Other than Sue, Harry didn't do the above.. Having the same skill set doesn't a necromancer make.
Example would be a person who is good with a gun, an expert marksman even, but doesn't make them a murderer or a killer, unless of course they go around killing people.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Different wizards have different strengths, Harry is rubbish at illusions and veils, he got better, through practice and teaching Molly.
His first attempt at Necromancy was a 66 million year old tyrannosaur, not a more recent spirit or bone, a fossil, and he pulled it off first go. Kemmler would have been impressed.
Harry calls himself a Necromancer, other wizards historically seen to be Necromancers by the wizard community call Harry a Necromancer. If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and is dead dead, it’s a zombie duck and has been brought back by a Necromancer. In this case it’s the ducks remote ancestor, Sue.
Mira:
As I said, one robin doesn't make a spring.. One attempt at necromancy doesn't make an necromancer... Having the skill to be one is one thing, but actually being one is another, Harry has too much respect for the Seven Laws, though now that he is booted out of the Council that may change.
Still I cannot see Harry drumming up a bunch of zombies anytime soon..
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