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Merlin, Building the Island, and the Family Dresden

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The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 15, 2022, 11:53:41 AM ---That still doesn't exclude a family connection.

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or include one, so what's your point in that? Literally not a point I touched in either way

Mira:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on January 15, 2022, 02:38:42 PM ---or include one, so what's your point in that? Literally not a point I touched in either way

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My point is there are multiple possible connections between the original Merlin and Harry's family.. There are Easter Eggs sprinkled all through the series as I pointed out.  Rashid might be an "archetype" as you put it of the original Merlin, but I don't think there are many, if any, clues that suggest a possible family connection to Merlin.  So yes, saying Harry is an archetype doesn't prove anything, nor does it disprove it..

seanham:
I do not think that Harry is a reincarnation of Merlin, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had some family relation to him. However, just because Thomas and Eb all wear the same pendant necklaces doesn't mean much, in my opinion. I like the comment that Yuillegan made about their being different degrees of life and death. Could some small bit of Merlin's soul be in Harry causing his ID?

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 15, 2022, 03:16:54 PM ---My point is there are multiple possible connections between the original Merlin and Harry's family.. There are Easter Eggs sprinkled all through the series as I pointed out.  Rashid might be an "archetype" as you put it of the original Merlin, but I don't think there are many, if any, clues that suggest a possible family connection to Merlin.  So yes, saying Harry is an archetype doesn't prove anything, nor does it disprove it..

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and none of those "Easter eggs" prove or disprove a family connection between Harry and Merlin? The only one I see you pointed out is the pentacle, which has been gone over before.. but to rehash, that's a connection through his magical learning, not something he got from his bloodline being connected to Merlin. Master to apprentice is the only proven line there so far.
My line of reasoning runs parallel to your theory, it doesn't in itself disturb it either way. Do I have to disprove something for Harry to be an archetype? No.
And it proves itself, in and of itself, a great deal. People can and HAVE made theories on Harry's future based on the archetype he's living and they have indeed started to come to pass. Iirc someone had a big one in PT/BG that I can't recall the specifics of.
Harry has indeed not studied reversing reinfelds, he could do this in the future perhaps. But Harry also refused the position of court mage to Make one even though he still helped him get his empire started, so perhaps events do not unfold linearly every time.

morriswalters:
If Harry is going to start investigating Renfields now is the right time of the arc to do so since evidently we are going to visit the Blacks and their progenitor. Who might get to be a Renfield that Harry might try and save?

The problem with the quoted sections that Mira posted is that the source is unreliable.  Both Bob and Demonreach.  Butcher made this abundantly clear in Peace Talks. Demonreach is keeping secrets. The overarching theme is that there is something about the prison and the English prisoner that Harry shouldn't know.  Why there are multiple story possibilities in that, the one obvious one is that it would be dangerous for Harry to know who it is. That suggests the possibility of paradox, that knowing who it is would change something not meant to be changed.  And there are multiple layers of this kind of thing ongoing.

Why did Jim break Little Chicago? I'll offer a suggestion.  Jim needed a source for advanced magic that he couldn't otherwise get. Bonea may not be the bright sprite she appears to be.

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