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Bob's Parents

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Conspiracy Theorist:
Both Bob and Bonea should be able to pull in ectoplasm from the Never Never and create themselves a body, so long as they power it with Magic and avoid dawn.

Thinking about it several Denarians have demon forms larger than their human bodies when Gray goes large he explpulls in excess mass from the Never Never. Bonea should know this trick even if Bob doesn’t.

Yuillegan:
I think it's semantics whether Bonnea was created from a Shadow of a Fallen versus a Fallen. The imprint (Lash) is Lasciel - it's personality, memories, purpose, and some limited version of it's powers are Lasciel's. I doubt Lasciel saw much difference until Dresden changed her avatar. Because that's what Lash was, an avatar of the main being.

In terms of Bonnea's powers and knowledge, I doubt she would be all too different. The biggest difference is that the being Lash had become by the time her and Harry conceived Bonnea, is that Lash was a far more independent being than the original avatar and a far kinder one. So perhaps Bonnea's personality will be less close to Lasciel and closer to the changed Lash. Time will tell.

I get what you're saying Mira about physical. I think a better word is probably visible. Because Bob and Bonnea are not subject much to the laws of physics, rather about as much as ghost Harry. They are far more affected by spiritual laws. Which isn't to say they can't affect the physical world, or that it can't affect them (which gives some hints about the dynamics between the physical and spiritual). We can see their forms however, unlike the wraiths and other incorporeal beings of the Astral Plane. Which is significant, I think.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Bob can interfere with the electromagnetic spectrum, presumably this includes the spectrum of visible light hence the orange (and occasionally other colours) light motes he manifests. They could be holograms rather than a magical illusion.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 10, 2022, 04:53:34 PM ---Maybe I didn't make myself clear, by "physical" I mean no solid, you most likely put your hand through either of them without harming them.  In that respect they are like a ghost, but clearly they are not.
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that doesn't clear it up at all except to say you see them differently? The only difference I can see is their ability interact and effect reality, people (bob's orgies) and ergo fate. But that's already been discussed in woj, they're borrowing that will and their place in reality via the agreement on the skull with the person holding it. They're co-oping it.

--- Quote --- I think another point about Bob, he can leave his skull and go riding on Mister's back to go places, but he cannot or at least hasn't possessed him..  Which sets him apart from say the Corpsetaker.

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and he has indeed, not for awhile but he took possession of Mister in one of the early books, one scene even has him ask Harry if he'd like him to take mister for a ride along to go look for something. He didn't mean on his back. This was I think before Jim put greater significance to mister perhaps, which is why he stopped doing it, but it happened. Taking over a person would require more willpower, though not ability, than Bob has perhaps?

morriswalters:
Bob can animate the inanimate. He does it in Skin Game with the lion. And he manifests a body in Ghost Story.

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